Django Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Guess we’ll never know what happened His tenure started off quite well tbh, but something must have gone off after Christmas last year. You don’t go from 3rd in the league, start freezing out players and nearly end up going down in the space of 4 months 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 tomhollywood has it bang on IMO. Regardless of opinions on his management skills, what GM has said about the club is surely undeniable. I don't have the slightest issue with this. He was being interviewed, got asked about his time here and answered the question honestly. Fine by me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 hours ago, wilyfox said: 3rd -> 18th in 3 months last year. Deduction carried over as a result. We’ll see how significant that is if we’re relegated by less than 6pts. Oh right, I forgot that Monk is responsible for our points deduction... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 hours ago, @owlstalk said: It's not the players fault either My guess is that the wages stopped being paid Christmas 19 and it went south after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Django said: Guess we’ll never know what happened His tenure started off quite well tbh, but something must have gone off after Christmas last year. You don’t go from 3rd in the league, start freezing out players and nearly end up going down in the space of 4 months It's just not possible for that to be the managers fault Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, bobness said: Oh right, I forgot that Monk is responsible for our points deduction... People will be blaming him for Covid next 1 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: It's just not possible for that to be the managers fault None of it? Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: tomhollywood has it bang on IMO. Regardless of opinions on his management skills, what GM has said about the club is surely undeniable. I don't have the slightest issue with this. He was being interviewed, got asked about his time here and answered the question honestly. Fine by me. All he has said is that there were a lot of things wrong. We don't need Sherlock Holmes on the case to be able to work that out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, hirstyboywonder said: All he has said is that there were a lot of things wrong. We don't need Sherlock Holmes on the case to be able to work that out! Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huncho Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gob_Bluth said: Talk about 2+2 = 436 Jeez Well no it isn’t, because if he hadn’t been receiving ‘bullsh!t’ he would have never taken it. So he took it knowing he wasn’t up to the task and to shove it in that chairman’s face Edited March 25, 2021 by Huncho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, bobness said: Oh right, I forgot that Monk is responsible for our points deduction... for it being applied this season rather than last, he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, wilyfox said: for it being applied this season rather than last, he is. No. He really isn't 1 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Ex-employee blames the company they worked for, well that's never happened before. To be fair to him, I do think he was making inroads to the issues at the club and if he had stayed, we wouldn't have suffered the horrendous run we had under Pulis. The Pulis experiment was the worst of the lot. He thought he could recruit in January for whatever reason, and slated the quality of the players, as well as hoping for a 0-0 as a good result until the turn of the year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsHall Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 hours ago, @owlstalk said: It's not the players fault either Can't believe you keep pushing this one....they have been gutless fkrs...Chancer isn't on the pitch with them. UTO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Huncho said: Well no it isn’t, because if he hadn’t been receiving ‘bullsh!t’ he would have never taken it. So he took it knowing he wasn’t up to the task and to shove it in that chairman’s face I don't think 1. He took the job knowing he wasn't up to task. 2. He wasn't invested. Neither of those points are made in the 2 line opening post you've added your own narrative about what you want to believe his motivations were. The only facts we can say about his statement posted is 1. He had concerns about coming here. 2. His motivation was to prove doubters wrong. Football is full of people wanting to prove doubters wrong, it's not really a stick to beat anyone with, and having doubts coming here? He's someone on a very long list. To my knowledge the following people have said there's stuff going on at Wednesday that isn't normal Carlos Monk Bruce Pulis Cowley Newsome Carlton Some obviously in the know more than others Edited March 25, 2021 by Gob_Bluth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: No. He really isn't - 3rd -> 18th in 3 months - 18pts 2nd half of season - froze players out - players out of position - no creativity - dismal goal return - crap recruitment Our form under him was so shít the independent panel took pity on us and carried it over. 5 more points and we’d have taken it on the chin and moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, wilyfox said: Our form under him was so shít the independent panel took pity on us and carried it over. 5 more points and we’d have taken it on the chin and moved on. Garry Monk and his actions didn't get us a 12 point deduction 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T Hardy Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: It's just not possible for that to be the managers fault I hold Chansiri 100% responsible for the position we are in, but a squad and a manager going from 3rd at Christmas to 16th by the end of the season.. something can’t be right in the dressing room there. However I’d put more blame with the players than I would GM, so I think I agree with you Edited March 25, 2021 by T Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, T Hardy said: a squad and a manager going from 3rd at Christmas to 16th by the end of the season.. something can’t be right in the dressing room there. Correct And it certainly wasn't anything to do with Garry Monk 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Garry Monk and his actions didn't get us a 12 point deduction You’re twisting what I said - and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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