Lincs Owl Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 You can't play football if you're frightened. In the last 15 minutes of games, I think we've scored 3 goals and conceded about 18. I think Blackburn managed 3 goals in the last 15 mins against us last season, in just one game. The players aren't fit to play 90 minutes, mentally or physically. That needs working on, wether Moore is nice or not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 For years we have been told that players need to be of strong mind to play at Hillsborough as the crowd can be toxic at times. What's the excuse this season? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Lincs Owl said: You can't play football if you're frightened. In the last 15 minutes of games, I think we've scored 3 goals and conceded about 18. I think Blackburn managed 3 goals in the last 15 mins against us last season, in just one game. The players aren't fit to play 90 minutes, mentally or physically. That needs working on, wether Moore is nice or not. Said it time and time again that this set of players aren't fit. They aren't professional enough to prepare themselves and look after their fitness. Instead we are left with players beating the ground as yet another opponent is quicker to the ball. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwellOwl Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 We had a suspected “no nonsense” Tony Pulis and look how that turned out... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloxwich Owl Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 After many years in management I firmly believe that each individual responds to a different stimulus. Laying it on the line (ranting & raving) worked with some, but with others it just caused them to regress within themselves, close down in effect and become virtually non responsive / non productive. The art of good man-management is to know which individual responds to which stimuli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Its 2021 People still think that shouting and throwing bottles at millionaires still works?? REALLY?? And being a nice bloke does? Said it before you have to be honest with some of them, tell em they're crap when they are. I'll start, Bannon you're crap. Edited March 15, 2021 by daleblue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, daleblue said: And being a nice bloke does? Said it before you have to be honest with some of them, tell em they're crap when they are. I'll start, Bannon you're crap. Ok mate Sounds like a solid plan 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 8 hours ago, 4evaowl said: This is true. Pulis was a very experienced manager, and clearly couldn’t wait to jump ship with this lot....and I expected him to do much better with them. Sadly DM can’t either. My worry is that I’m not convinced he is the man to turn us around this season or next because I think it’s become the impossible job for other than a very top class manager that we couldn’t attract. You are entitled to your view, you may even be right. However now isn't the time to doubt the guy, he's only been here a couple of weeks. He's barely had time to find his way round the ground and the training facilities. We were down before he arrived, any reasonable person knows that. DM's job is to rebuild the team for next season. If we don't go down next season he will have done a half decent job. My worry isn't about Moore's ability, it's about whether he will have his hands tied by DC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beighton Owl 87 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Furious George said: Thanks mate, I disagree. When do we get the new manager bounce? Starts Wednesday night 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I think the word we are looking for is discipline. You can create discipline within an environment without ranting and raving. You set standards and a culture where everyone wants to achieve and over achieve them. This is often done by example, as opposed to verbally. You then reward and praise success and identify and work with failure. Why have they failed, what was the reason? Darren Moore is here for the rebuild for next season, regardless of the results. We saw a ‘bounce’ yesterday and some good football to boot. My opinion is he is a good choice and will do well over time here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgyowl Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Furious George said: I don't, but, because every game so far since he took charge we've been poo, I reckon that's a fair assumption. Tbf we've been fecking poor under several managers which to me says its the players that are at fault not the managers, can't wait for a clear out with dm at the helm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhollywood Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Are we really going to start questioning Moore when this is the 4th manager this season who has tried to get a tune out this spineless, sorry bunch of a squad we have? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sternlad Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Furious George said: ******** hell mate, imagine if the crowd was there, we wouldn't be anywhere close to getting them going. We could issue them with fines for causing unnecessary noise in the "library"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 A bit mixed so far .....some of his selections and substitutions have been a bit baffling , but there was definitely a shape and attacking intent yesterday that was a million times better than anything Pulis served up , but the bottom line is played 3 lost 3. From here on in its all about recruitment............if he is left to it then we can judge him properly next season.......................if the situation stays as it is then he is f***ed before he starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 There is a phrase..... "players would run through a brick wall for the manager". This isn't achieved by fear, fearful players would run around it. We appointed Moore for the character he is, I don't think he should change to suit this group of players. Rather change the players to suit him, an inevitability in a few weeks when the season is over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Ok mate Sounds like a solid plan Joking aside if you are not honest with a problem you cannot solve the problem, especially when it involves a number of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, daleblue said: Joking aside if you are not honest with a problem you cannot solve the problem, especially when it involves a number of people. I'm 100% confident he puts a very positive spin on things to the press in public I'm 100% confident he's honest with the players privately 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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matthefish2002 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Much as I love the old fashioned manager taking the paint off the wall at half time with his tongue it wouldn't work in modern football. Gone are the days of Clough basically bullying players and even Alex Ferguson hairdryer treatment. You can be a nice bloke outside of dressing room and be a non nonsense type of manager within it but not in the same way as 30-40 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 10 hours ago, Furious George said: Working out well so far Let’s hope it continues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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