OWLERTON GHOST Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, NeonLeon said: ‘Just because a road gets used more than the others, doesn’t make it the best road.’ Julius Caesar He definitely turned into the wrong street didn't he ? That day way back many years ago March time as I recollect ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Buxtongent said: Without disparaging either player, don't forget the old saying - There are Liars, Bloody Liars, and Statisticians. The only true stats are - P - W - L - D - GF - GA - G Diff - Points. When assessing a team yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: No you go first seeing as you served first .... How do you know this ?..... Having played and watched football. Do you really think players decide among themselves who's taking a free-kick, corner or penalty with no input from the manager? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
should know better Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 No bids I guess as scouts will see he is an absolute passenger when it comes to stopping the opposition getting to our back four. It is his choice to drop behind whoever our midfield screen is, those players then get the blame for him barely trying to defend. I noticed he is not that great at "one-two's" but then you watch and he doesn't realise it when the opposition do that to him, he can't track a runner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Having played and watched football. Do you really think players decide among themselves who's taking a free-kick, corner or penalty with no input from the manager? Skipper as a rule makes the set pieces decision with input from any senior player ..... The problem starts when skipper thinks he's the best option and he isn't ........ No good asking our first team coach to confirm this ... His stock reply will be it's not his remit to get involved in such stuff. Chansiri more than likely micro manages set pieces too .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 37 minutes ago, Steve Down South said: Right, now I understand what key passes are, thanks for explaining (I’m not being facetious, I genuinely didn’t understand). Armed with that bit of knowledge, I’m struggling to remember all those glaring chances we’ve been missing. No, we don't get many shots away, do we? We're second bottom of the division by that metric, and even worse when it comes to actually getting shots on target. Given that Bannan ranks so highly in the division for creating shooting opportunities, i dread to think where we'd be without him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Skipper as a rule makes the set pieces decision with input from any senior player ..... The problem starts when skipper thinks he's the best option and he isn't ........ No good asking our first team coach to confirm this ... His stock reply will be it's not his remit to get involved in such stuff. Chansiri more than likely micro manages set pieces too .... Seriously? You think they do no work in training on set pieces and the manager has no say whatsoever on the set piece taker every game, even if they continually come to nothing? Our stats for goals from set pieces aren't dramatically worse than every other team in the division even though we have no goal scoring defenders of note and no great height in our midfield or attack to aim for. I dare say we don't win as many corners as many others either due to our lack of attacking threat. Others have taken set pieces recently., I can think of a couple from Harris, one which went out for a throw and one which went out over the bar for a goal kick. It's not like others are continually scoring from corners against us and we probably concede more corners than we win. Its a tired and lazy observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Seriously? It's a tired and lazy observation. I'm speaking from personal experience ......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: I'm speaking from personal experience ......... Only 3 teams have won less corners by average per game than us this season in the Championship. By contrast, only 3 teams concede more corners per game than us. Despite the fact we are useless in both boxes and concede more corners and free-kicks than we have ourselves, we have only conceded 3 more from set pieces than we have scored. To blame Bannan for this therefore seems a bit wide of the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: You think they do no work in training on set pieces? .... Funny you mention this ..... Maybe you can help me with this conundrum? ... When Bannan takes a corner And he puts one arm up Or ...... he touches his bald patch with one hand. Or he touches his bald patch with two hands ... What is he actually doing ? Because every corner is the bloody same ...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Bloody Rubbish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilianenko Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Only 3 teams have won less corners by average per game than us this season in the Championship. By contrast, only 3 teams concede more corners per game than us. Despite the fact we are useless in both boxes and concede more corners and free-kicks than we have ourselves, we have only conceded 3 more from set pieces than we have scored. To blame Bannan for this therefore seems a bit wide of the mark. Barry probably takes more corners than anyone in the Championship then. Yet he has only one assist from a corner and one assist from a free kick which he takes 99% of. Maybe it’s not a lazy observation after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Just now, Emilianenko said: Barry probably takes more corners than anyone in the Championship then. Yet he has only one assist from a corner and one assist from a free kick which he takes 99% of. Maybe it’s not a lazy observation after all. Why do you think other teams share out their corners more than we do? I have seen Penney, Harris, others take corners for us this season with no success, sometimes not even getting the ball in play. We've conceded 3 more from set pieces than we have scored this season, regardless of who is taking them so others can't be that good at taking them either given that we have next to no presence in either box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilianenko Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Why do you think other teams share out their corners more than we do? I have seen Penney, Harris, others take corners for us this season with no success, sometimes not even getting the ball in play. We've conceded 3 more from set pieces than we have scored this season, regardless of who is taking them so others can't be that good at taking them either given that we have next to no presence in either box. Bannan is the club Captain and a senior pro, he will have a lot of sway. When Harris and Penney have failed with as many corners as Bazza you might have a point. How many corners does Barry float into the keepers arms? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilianenko Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Maybe everyone is looking at it the wrong way. We have one of the Championships deadliest finishers, players we have and have had as strikers tend to do better at other teams. Maybe the supply is just not good enough? Maybe it’s not the strikers who aren’t good enough but the creative players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Emilianenko said: Maybe everyone is looking at it the wrong way. We have one of the Championships deadliest finishers, players we have and have had as strikers tend to do better at other teams. Maybe the supply is just not good enough? Maybe it’s not the strikers who aren’t good enough but the creative players? Why aren't dozens of other clubs queuing up to take one of the Championships deadliest finishers off our hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Emilianenko said: Maybe everyone is looking at it the wrong way. We have one of the Championships deadliest finishers..... That free kick (equaliser) against Stoke were a beauty weren't it !... Yep a beauty ... How long ago ..... How long ago .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marconi Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 We need a player that can cross a ball with pace, not floaty crosses. Rhodes strength is from glancing headers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilianenko Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Why aren't dozens of other clubs queuing up to take one of the Championships deadliest finishers off our hands? Wages, everyone straight Covid and FFP. Why aren’t dozens of clubs queuing up to take one of the Championships deadliest creators? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Emilianenko said: Wages, everyone straight Covid and FFP. Why aren’t dozens of clubs queuing up to take one of the Championships deadliest creators? Brentford made a bid for Bannan, besides which I never said he was one of the Championships deadliest creators. Rhodes will be a free agent soon, lets see where he ends up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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