Gob_Bluth Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 You can't blame Mandaric for selling to DC. He bought us, steadied the ship and sold us, exactly what he set out to do DC's own pig headedness has got us into this mess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Was purely a middleman. Did the job he was brought in to do. Would never say that he sold us down the river, he was selling to someone who would and has invested regardless. Was up to Chansiri, not mandaric, to appoint decent advisors which sadly never materialised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, S1Owl said: Howard then.. anyone with any knowledge of running a club especially the playing side and with the club at heart. I know it's going back in time n not going to happen but somet like that has to happen as nowt else is working. I agree chansiri needs advice and help However I also feel that he wouldn't accept it from anyone other than his current advisor Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Imagine that DC calls Milan "I need help - what should I do?" "Sack your advisors, let your staff do their jobs at the club, engage positively with the fans so they fall for a myth that you love them and the club" "No ta" Reminds me of the advice my wife gave me. I was telling her how sore my bum was after a particularly hot curry. She said “Ring sting’ How on earth is he going to help me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: I agree chansiri needs advice and help However I also feel that he wouldn't accept it from anyone other than his current advisor At what point does he scratch his head and decide the advice he has received is poor and change tact by getting rid of him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, heppers said: At what point does he scratch his head and decide the advice he has received is poor and change tact by getting rid of him? We don't know that he can get rid of him 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1Owl Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I agree chansiri needs advice and help However I also feel that he wouldn't accept it from anyone other than his current advisor yeah pigheadedness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 28 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: He bought our club, did some amazing PR to get fans on side and 'love' him, and sold the club for a profit He's a cold businessman - nothing more The buying of the club was to make a profit - nothing more He sold to anyone he could to make a profit - nothing more He was genuinely amazing at what he does - get a club that's in dire straits, keep it ticking over and find a buyer Some of us said precisely this on here at the time he sold the club, I received over a hundred negs if I remember rightly for saying pretty much what you posted . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, Owl999 said: Some of us said precisely this on here at the time he sold the club, I received over a hundred negs if I remember rightly for saying pretty much what you posted . True Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, heppers said: At what point does he scratch his head and decide the advice he has received is poor and change tact by getting rid of him? Maybe he can’t get rid of him? Every other senior member of staff at the club have lasted 5 minutes under DC. So it’s very strange how Paixao has managed to stay on board for the past 5/6 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: We don't know that he can get rid of him 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Maybe he can’t get rid of him? Every other senior member of staff at the club have lasted 5 minutes under DC. So it’s very strange how Paixao has managed to stay on board for the past 5/6 years. True, but DC bought the club in his own name initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, heppers said: True, but DC bought the club in his own name initially. My gas and electric are in my partners name Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: My gas and electric are in my partners name 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: My gas and electric are in my partners name So we think stuffing man somehow owns shares in the business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, heppers said: So we think stuffing man somehow owns shares in the business? I don't think or comment on anything regarding that man Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 To be fair to MM, the club was debt free after the sale. He structured the sale in instalments over 2 years so that money could be invested in the team. That was good enough for me. DC has made a mess of it. That is no fault of MM. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 The football authorities talk about fit and proper this, due diligence that - it's just rubbish. Providing there's no legal case pending for drug/people trafficking or mass genocide, the EFL would welcome anyone to the table. No idea what motives DC has, or who and where the money's coming from but it's illogical to carry on ploughing £000,000s per year into the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Mandaric is and always was a football version of a venture capitalist. Wednesday was exactly the type of club he thrives on. He buys clubs when they are at their lowest ebb with one intention, and one intention alone. To turn around the fortunes of the club as cheaply as possible and sell at the maximum return on investment. People must be deluded if they think there was really any emotion in his decision to sell. He would have sold to Mammadov if he had real money and Chansiri had the real money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Yeah he should have kept funding a multi million a year loss making business for a few more years until we can find someone else to buy the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 41 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Mandaric did not 'save' our club He bought a tragic situation, did some PR to make it look amazing, and sold it to anyone who would buy it He couldn't give one jot about our situation right now - quite rightly - because he's a cold hard businessman who made a profit from selling a messed up business MM stepped in and saw an opportunity. But he did save the club from going into administration or receivership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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