TrickyTrev Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I can’t see Chansiri selling is whether we stay up or go down. I’m convinced the deluded pr**k thinks he’ll be able to get every penny back he’s wasted and as such he’ll no doubt stick a stupid asking price on the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohgoditsjames Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 There won’t be anything to sell soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastern Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 The other silver lining with relegation is me cancelling sky sports. going to save me over a score a month. Why pay when we will never be on it. I would urge everyone to do this. If we can hit sky in the pocket it can only help change the gross inequalities in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Chansiri won’t go so easily. I say we’re about in the middle of the Chansiri saga. The end I think will get very ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastern Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 My concern is though that deeply unpopular Chairman seem to ride things out. Vincent Tan, that lot at Blackburn, the Hull chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrig Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 As an analogy: A man buys a house for £250k. He then hires a consultant to improve the house. The builders recommended by the consultant wreck the house to the extent that it's now only worth £125k despite an additional £500k being spent on it. Coming to sell the house the man wants to sell it for £750k to recoup all of his investment. Who is going to buy the house for the asking price? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Chansiri won’t go so easily. I say we’re about in the middle of the Chansiri saga. The end I think will get very ugly I reckon he could go full scorched earth. The signs are there. And I think you are right, we are in perhaps the middle stage and depressingly we've still got a way to go. Edited February 20, 2021 by Maddogbob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, BrumBlue said: Our fans havs been saying the same. Hopefully the owners go if we go down, but i do worry about being stuck in league one for a while. i am worried we wont be in League 1 for long, trouble is i can see us going in the wrong direction to get out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Maddogbob said: I reckon he could go full scorched earth. The signs are there. And I think you are right, we are in perhaps the middle stage and depressingly we've still got a way to go. He strikes me as the type. Incredibly stubborn, tough negotiator, doesn’t handle criticism at all well. And most worrying he owns the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: He strikes me as the type. Incredibly stubborn, tough negotiator, doesn’t handle criticism at all well. And most worrying he owns the ground. We've allowed him to bury himself and sow roots into the club on so meny levels I don't see how he can be weeded out. This may have been well intentioned at the time, but it will bite us on the arse. The way I look at it, he's considerably more dangerous than DA ever was, ie a local buissnessman. With limited funds and limits to what he could do. On the flipside, DC is stubborn, dosnt take criticism well and from a very wealthy family, he realistically could at a whim just cut the cord and go down that route. This makes him far far more dangerous. He's not even in the country and could if he wished cut the cord, while holding all the cards. With little or no accountabily. Oddly I'm not sure if I want him to do that or keep us on life support. Edited February 20, 2021 by Maddogbob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Maddogbob said: We've allowed him to bury himself and sow roots into the club on so meny levels I don't see how he can be weeded out. This may have been well intentioned at the time, but it will bite us on the arse. The way I look at it, he's considerably more dangerous than DA ever was, ie a local buissnessman. With limited funds and limits to what he could do. On the flipside, DC is stubborn, dosnt take criticism well and from a very wealthy family, he realistically could at a whim go down that route. This makes him far far more dangerous. He's not even in the country and cut frankly cut the cord, while holding all the cards. With little or no accountabily. Yep I can honestly just see him putting it down as a failed project and doing the absolute bare minimum. I personally think he’s already started doing this. The losses he’s made and will make here are a drop in the ocean to his family’s overall wealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: *checks squad* *checks accounts* *checks league position* *checks if we have a manager* *checks if we own our own stadium* *checks if accounts are out yet* *checks if fans season ticket refunds have been done yet* *checks how many players we signed in January* Yeah I see what you mean Why is the second “checks” capitalised at the start but not the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn59 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, TaxiMark said: Good post Glenn, yet we still have Wednesday fans who come on here twitter that still say how much he has pumped in and without him we would be fùcked ....fact is we are ...bigtime! Doesn't matter how much he's pumped in, it's not been spent in the right way. Any fool can squander millions and then blame everyone else. If he'd had kept the advisors like Roeder etc we may not have made the big mistakes in terms of signings, contracts etc. But they all left within months. He has his pet advisor who is simply topping up his own bank account. I know of issues about how the staff feel and are basically not treated so well. Our cross city rivals are a much happier place to work. I know of an Owls fan who was offered the same job at both clubs and went to work for United as it is a better atmosphere. These are worrying signs on AND off the field. He seems unable to learn from his mistakes, but I think this is a cultural thing. To people from the Far East admitting to getting something is seen to lose face, and I think also there are the issues about coming from a powerful family in Thailand they cannot be slagged off so to speak, he seems to have difficulty when Owls fans speak out about his mistakes. If he was more genuinely open and tried to get the fans onside I think people would feel much better about him. But there is this view that fans are just customers. As to the money he has pumped in, if you scaled it down to what the average fan earns of has in the bank...the average fan has ploughed more money into the club based on wealth per person. And the fans are basically born into supporting the club, so it's in their DNA. But that seems something else he can't seem to understand, fans venting their views is because they DO care, they love the club, it's not some plaything that if it goes under he'll go buy another somewhere else in the world 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbinTheDonkey Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, andytrig said: As an analogy: A man buys a house for £250k. He then hires a consultant to improve the house. The builders recommended by the consultant wreck the house to the extent that it's now only worth £125k despite an additional £500k being spent on it. Coming to sell the house the man wants to sell it for £750k to recoup all of his investment. Who is going to buy the house for the asking price? However due to a poor job done by all, especially the foundations, he has to continually prop up said foundations year upon year. Due to this annual bill the final cost keeps on increasing. Very poor for all concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Shezza Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 hours ago, T Hardy said: Maybe a positive if we go down, Chansiri will decide he’s had enough. We know from his comments every season that he expects promotion, yet he doesn’t realise that he never gives any manager we have the tools to achieve it. He’s never going to take us forward. Would you prefer Dave Allen back in control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn59 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, Sweet Shezza said: Would you prefer Dave Allen back in control? as bad as that was we seem to be heading into a far worse scenario at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Shezza Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, Glenn59 said: as bad as that was we seem to be heading into a far worse scenario at the moment Than Chesterfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn59 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sweet Shezza said: Than Chesterfield? well we only can guess what Chansiri will do in reaction to relegation.......Dave Allen worst chairman {Chansiri.....hold my beer] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Sheffield Wednesday is a failed project and Chansiri will never ever see his money back. Not even 10p on the pound. So, given the club is worth so little, particularly in League One, Chansiri has two realistic choices: Sell us at a massive loss but trouser a few million back and get rid of the hassle. Keep us but run the costs down to the bare minimum so it isn’t making a loss every month and hope something miraculous happens, like promotion on a shoe string, or some as yet unknown prodigy from the youth set up attracts a huge fee. If you don’t need the smallish number of millions back because your already rich, option two is the best one from a business perspective. You’ve already lost the money but the asset isn’t devaluing further and hey, if you run the club in a sustainable way and stick someone else in charge some fluke or other is always a possibility! Everyone goes on about DC being delusional but I bet he’s not totally daft. I expect him to own us for a good while yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, CircleSeven said: Keep us but run the costs down to the bare minimum so it isn’t making a loss every month That's just not possible In fact it's totally impossible Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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