stanningtonowl Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 9 hours ago, sheriwozgod said: Last summers recruitment eh?.................................younger, hungrier And a winning dressing room..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny12Inch Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Why is the OP in the past tense? Have I missed summat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 7 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: He averages a direct goal involvement every 275 minutes in the Championship. I'd say he's pretty comfortable at this level. One goal involvement every 3 games... is that good? Lucas Joao is 17 league goals and 5 assists from 24 games this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 10 hours ago, Dooogs said: I know this is going to set off the "DON'T TALK ABOUT FOOTBALLING IDENTITY" klaxon but DC's habit of signing managers with differing football phiosophies means that there's a much higher risk of a new manager's tactics/formation not fitting the players available. The whole point of a club having a medium-long-term footballing philosophy is to hire successive managers (if needed) who can easily utilise the players available - and having a DoF to ensure that signings make sense and won't be discarded as 'not fitting our shape' six months later. I'm not sure. Carlos in his first season has been the only real difference. Jos defensive and counter attack Bruce plays defensive counter attack Monk defensive counter attack Pulis defensive counter attack. We've hardly changed style since Carlos in season ones flowing football. Since then we've tried to defend resolutely and then break with the pace of Harris, muphey etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 5 hours ago, pat blondeau said: One goal involvement every 3 games... is that good? Lucas Joao is 17 league goals and 5 assists from 24 games this year Playing in two relegation-threatened teams, it's pretty decent. Not stratospheric like João's form, but nothing to suggest that he's incapable of contributing at Championship level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 My prediction is that Windass will play today and be poor 1 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwellOwl Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Great point, seems to be a player who almost needs to make a position for himself. No doubt he can contribute to the team, needs to get back in and win a position back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megsonstheman Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 One of the few positives if we employ Cook as manager is that he has this players card marked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 He'll probably score a hat trick if he plays today after all this "constructive criticism"........ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: He'll probably score a hat trick if he plays today after all this "constructive criticism"........ It's ok to say a player is decent but doesn't fit our formation/strategy Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S72 Owl Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Windass should be used in tough away games, he’s the only players we’ve got that’s willing to run in behind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: It's ok to say a player is decent but doesn't fit our formation/strategy I'm sure it is ..... But the likelihood he'll bang a brace or one has now increased Due to recent "endorsements".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: I'm sure it is ..... But the likelihood he'll bang a brace or one has now increased Due to recent "endorsements".... Win win scenario Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 I can fully see him playing today and a few folk coming on about how I spouted off a load of gash nonsense and how I've been proven wrong Then Windass will disappear again into the background at the club Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I can fully see him playing today and a few folk coming on about how I spouted off a load of gash nonsense and how I've been proven wrong Then Windass will disappear again into the background at the club No one bothers to comment that your posts are gash anymore. Strange overly negative thread, that you would have jumped on. Paterson has gone a bit quite, would be the right decision to go with Windass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Somebody said: No one bothers to comment that your posts are gash anymore. Strange overly negative thread, that you would have jumped on. Paterson has gone a bit quite, would be the right decision to go with Windass. Strangely overly negative thread? By saying a player doesn't fit into our formation? Seriously? The irony of saying someone's posts are gash then coming out with that REYT Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, megsonstheman said: One of the few positives if we employ Cook as manager is that he has this players card marked I think that ship has sailed after Chansiri's 'unprofessional' outburst. Cook's comments on Windass were quite interesting though, weren't they? “I think, especially when we weren’t doing so well, Josh probably struggled with the fact that he felt he moved from Rangers to Wigan Athletic, which was valid....I think over a period of time, it just become beneficial for the team, and for Josh, that he moved on. Josh Windass, without a shadow of a doubt, has got all the qualities to be a Premier League footballer. So when people built this up, I was always searching for a formula that made Wigan Athletic win. And unfortunately for some lads along the way there was always going to be a bit of collateral damage." It seems to me that he's well aware of Windass' ability, but didn't think he was a natural fit for the system he needed to employ to get results with Wigan's squad last season. It seems to be a similar story here under Thompson so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 11 hours ago, shezzas left peg said: I'm not sure. Carlos in his first season has been the only real difference. Jos defensive and counter attack Bruce plays defensive counter attack Monk defensive counter attack Pulis defensive counter attack. We've hardly changed style since Carlos in season ones flowing football. Since then we've tried to defend resolutely and then break with the pace of Harris, muphey etc. On the face of it yes, but a closer inspection reveals slightly different philosophies Yes we were more expansive in Carlos’s first season, but switched to a different way of playing post Wembley It was still all about control though, setting up in a block in the middle of the park, but still keeping the ball. They gave us control of games, and achieved a decent win percentage. All the other managers have played a different type of defensive game, looking for the head of a Fletcher type with longer balls It’s a less precise way of attacking, and relinquishes a lot of the control It also negates our midfield somewhat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Should never have signed him permanently. More managerial madness from a Monk the Magnificent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I don't think it's just Josh Windass who's not convincing all the recent signings (apart from Hutch) are in the same boat. All willing workers but are probably in the wrong league to be considered regular first teamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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