i used to be sc_owl Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, i used to be sc_owl said: If I included money spent, and factored in the amount spent per point gained I am extremely confident we get less bang for our buck now than we did in the seasons pre-play offs. Although to be fair, I did state in the OP that for all the investment we have gone backwards which is at the heart of the point - we have spent a fvckton of money to end up (roughly) where we were when spending a fraction of what we do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 29 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: We've only finished in the top half of a league 7 times in 26 years. And then people try to claim our fans arent amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Grandad said: And then people try to claim our fans arent amazing 2 of those top half finishes were in league 1. In the last 22 years of Prem and Champ football we've had 17 years in the bottom half. Not much to cheer about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Is it any wonder even the hope is fading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 6 hours ago, quinnssweetshop said: No matter the semantics We are a club in dramatic decline, and a laughing stock. And 350m ? really ? Where's that ended up then ? If you look at actual performance this season (excluding points deduction) we’d be around 17th. About where we have finished in last few years. If some common sense can prevail and we stay up this season, things are salvageable with some decent recruitment in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, RichSheffWeds said: If you look at actual performance this season (excluding points deduction) we’d be around 17th. About where we have finished in last few years. If some common sense can prevail and we stay up this season, things are salvageable with some decent recruitment in the summer. Be surprises if we get a manager in and recruit the 10-15 players we need. It'll be a patch up tread water job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, RichSheffWeds said: If some common sense can prevail and we stay up this season, things are salvageable with some decent recruitment in the summer. I hear what you are saying, and i'm usually one for giving someone a chance, but Chansiri has had it. His puppeteer, paxo, has helped destroy us. Please expand on the common sense that actually exists at our club at the moment, for it to prevail, there has to be some positive side to how the club is run. And from where most people sit, including fans, ex players, pundits etc. There is none. And 17th - Highest prices in the league, are you honestly o.k with that ? Year in, year out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Plonk said: Hardly gone backwards. We had our two best seasons since he took over and are now back to average. If you take away the points deduction we are bang on where we were before he arrived. Off the pitch is a different matter So if we are being very generous to him then we have run up a load of debt, got in to a huge mess and have stayed exactly the same as we were before he came in. How has he managed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 We were lower second tier dross before DC and now we’re still lower second tier dross but with a massive wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 hours ago, quinnssweetshop said: I hear what you are saying, and i'm usually one for giving someone a chance, but Chansiri has had it. His puppeteer, paxo, has helped destroy us. Please expand on the common sense that actually exists at our club at the moment, for it to prevail, there has to be some positive side to how the club is run. And from where most people sit, including fans, ex players, pundits etc. There is none. And 17th - Highest prices in the league, are you honestly o.k with that ? Year in, year out ? i didn’t say I was happy with 17th. You post said we are in “dramatic decline”. From a pure results perspective that simply is not true. Results wise we are treading water with recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 You don’t spend £350m and the boiler bursts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 9 hours ago, RichSheffWeds said: i didn’t say I was happy with 17th. You post said we are in “dramatic decline”. From a pure results perspective that simply is not true. Results wise we are treading water with recent years. Morning, i never said you was, i asked you a question. Pure results, i'd say we are what we are, relegation material. That's dramatic enough for anyone, i'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waverley_owl Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 On 18/02/2021 at 09:47, i used to be sc_owl said: The point is that we have gone backwards despite the investment, and having the information clearly visible provokes discussion. Not really sure why you seem so riled up? I'll get back in my box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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