Tollertonowl Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 35 minutes ago, DSandersonOWL said: We are Massive at the moment : 5 victories in 7 matches due to the master-stroke of Chansiri of not appointing another Monk or Pulis... The same thoughts as me + if it's working for us don't change it - especially in our circumstances.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Tollertonowl said: Under S Gray we signed some great players for peanuts that were influential in CC's (apparent success) over the following seasons... However we just pushed SG to the side for CC to come in with a few key players (big bucks for us) to watch and then tactically screw up our chances of promotion.... In one window Gray signed Westwood, Lees and Mcguigan. I thought at the time that if he gets same kind of support next season , perhaps he could get us up.... But next season Canshiri took over and Carlos got the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themagiccap Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 An excellent CEO, a formation that suits their players, no fear of selling their better players and re-investing in younger, cheap hungry players coupled with scouts who look further than Cardiff, Wigan and Huddersfield for signings. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, Tollertonowl said: At the moment they are way down the performance table in comparison to us and mediocre in terms of league position so I think we should see if their plan works before discussing further.... You have a real tw@tish manner so firstly, pull your head in. It happens too frequently to be an accident. We don't need to "see if their plan works before discussing it further...." because it already does exactly what they expect from it. They have recruited well for years, fact. They accept their league position because they know they will be in business next season regardless. Something we can't actually say at the moment with any certainty....... In terms of the logic behind your reply, why don't we also forget about our failure to pay wages on time, 6 pt deduction and being managerless as well. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tollertonowl Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Morepork said: You have a real tw@tish manner so firstly, pull your head in. It happens too frequently to be an accident. We don't need to "see if their plan works before discussing it further...." because it already does exactly what they expect from it. They have recruited well for years, fact. They accept their league position because they know they will be in business next season regardless. Something we can't actually say at the moment with any certainty....... In terms of the logic behind your reply, why don't we also forget about our failure to pay wages on time, 6 pt deduction and being managerless as well. Sorry, but my views on who is the better team are based on/ in line with the competition that the teams have entered into - therefore who finishes higher at the end of the season (all games played) is (potentially) a better team albeit we have a 6 point deduction... Also Barnsley are still potential relegation candidates (at the moment) so if they go down (at the end of the season) and with almost 1/2 a season still to play (it may still happen) - I would also base my view on their plan working/ not working on the final results/ position in the league than their position now/ recent result, as on the form table they aren't doing very well.. Also NT is the manager so we aren't managerless (your words) and if you could please expand on your points regarding the 6points deduction and players wages I'll respond.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Just now, Tollertonowl said: Sorry, but my views on who is the better team are based on/ in line with the competition that the teams have entered into - therefore who finishes higher at the end of the season (all games played) is (potentially) a better team albeit we have a 6 point deduction... Also Barnsley are still potential relegation candidates (at the moment) so if they go down (at the end of the season) and with almost 1/2 a season still to play (it may still happen) - I would also base my view on their plan working/ not working on the final results/ position in the league than their position now/ recent result, as on the form table they aren't doing very well.. Also NT is the manager so we aren't managerless (your words) and if you could please expand on your points regarding the 6points deduction and players wages I'll respond.... I don't give a monkey's about your opinions, you are entitled to express them on here. What I do object to is the tone, so I'm going to ask you to refrain from commenting on anything of mine and I'll return you the same courtesy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tollertonowl Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Morepork said: I don't give a monkey's about your opinions, you are entitled to express them on here. What I do object to is the tone, so I'm going to ask you to refrain from commenting on anything of mine and I'll return you the same courtesy. In terms of Tone that can be taken out of context by the reader, which is unfortunately the problem with some written comments/ correspondence, as per this format... I therefore apologise if my wording has been abrupt/ tw@tish, as this wasn't my intent, which was just to clearly state my view on your view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I'd just like to refer back to my earlier comment to all the people who are getting arsey. Barnsley are only in the championship this season by virtue of another club being docked points last season They are hardly a model we should be following 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tollertonowl Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Just now, Dot said: I'd just like to refer back to my earlier comment to all the people who are getting arsey. Barnsley are only in the championship this season by virtue of another club being docked points last season They are hardly a model we should be following Other than yesterday - I don't even see how why we would compare ourselves to them, as they are based on form (other than yesterday) likely to be fighting to stay up at the end of the year... FFS - we are going to do it this year and next year is our worry... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendaryswan Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dot said: I'd just like to refer back to my earlier comment to all the people who are getting arsey. Barnsley are only in the championship this season by virtue of another club being docked points last season They are hardly a model we should be following Really, Brentford followed it just with more investment as they had a wealthy owner,not done them any harm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, legendaryswan said: Really, Brentford followed it just with more investment as they had a wealthy owner,not done them any harm ?? I'm not sure I understand? are you saying Brentford followed the barnsley model? getting relegated on the pitch and staying up because another team were docked points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tollertonowl Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Tollertonowl said: The same thoughts as me + if it's working for us don't change it - especially in our circumstances.... 25 minutes ago, legendaryswan said: Really, Brentford followed it just with more investment as they had a wealthy owner,not done them any harm In football even loads of investment isn’t the answer, which Frank Lampard at Chelsea is an example of after doing well on peanuts for them and then failing/ being sacked after spending big time on players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigash_swfc Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just had a look into this. Out of a 24 man squad, their 2 oldest players are 27 (Frieser) and 30 (Sollbauer). Westwood is 37 this year, Hutchinson and Bannan both 32 this year too. They have 15 players, out of 24! who are 22 years old or under. Absolutely mind blowing! We have 5 active players under 22 (Uhroghide, Hunt, Shaw, Green, Dele-Bashiru) They make every penny count, they do their homework. It's not solely a managers position that is making Barnsley abit of a success this season, it comes from higher up. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEARSON Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Dot said: I'd just like to refer back to my earlier comment to all the people who are getting arsey. Barnsley are only in the championship this season by virtue of another club being docked points last season They are hardly a model we should be following We’ll see. A bit of good luck they may have got but there’s people who’d argue following the financial rules whilst others don’t means you get what you deserve in situations like that. Part of being a well run club is you get the benefit of not having points deductions like we have. Unfortunately with how we’re ran and how they’re ran, they’re on a much more likely trajectory to the premier league than we are. They’ll probably improve year on year slowly whilst we’re on our decline from chansiris s**t or bust tactic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I’ve seen them a couple of times this season and been impressed. I think they’ll run the play off places close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapSmurf Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Because their boiler is working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Decent team. Not amazing, but decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangonrose Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Realism at all levels - board, management, and importantly supporters. Some of us think we're a failed Premier League team. Yes, we've been there, but we are a good Championship team on our day. Barnsley have no expectations on their shoulders which frees them up mentally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfcAH Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 No Chansiri, Simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 One of the richest clubs in the country aren't they? Part of a group of clubs that are run in the similar way or managers and players swapping clubs etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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