DlNGLE Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, dorian gray said: IF you fail to go up, you'll at least face second season syndrome, sides will know what you bring. also getting any worthwhile loans signed on full time is a must for you. We’ve only got one player on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pughies Jockstrap Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Now the seasons ended some posters on this thread are looking extremely stupid. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 12 hours ago, dorian gray said: it's called 'tactics'' we don't bother with them. Not sure about that as the one tactic we seem to constantly do is to lump it out for a throw in at every kick off. Sums up our squad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von shabba Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 12 hours ago, dorian gray said: it's called 'tactics'' we don't bother with them. It's more than that. They have an excellent recruitment and scouting team and policy. You'll not see Barnsley signing crocks, has beens and journeymen. The American Dike is a prime example and they also accept that they have to move players on. A recruitment model we should copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 24 minutes ago, 83owl said: Not sure about that as the one tactic we seem to constantly do is to lump it out for a throw in at every kick off. Sums up our squad really. Apparently, this is what Barnsley do too, but they are actually good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewings Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 This is their best ever season since they dropped out of the PL, what was that 97/98? What has made this worse is its coincided with our relegation or lets be honest no one would be saying much more than Barnsley are doing alright. They have got their house in order and have a decent young squad but it doesn't matter how much money the Chairman has Barnsley can only get so far up the football pyramid and I think they are pretty much maxed our right now tbh. It's already been said when each one of our local rivals, even Doncaster, have a better run football team as a business then it just makes our Chairman look even more of an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 In last 20 years I would say our on the field record is nearly the same as Barnsley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewings Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 I'd say our last 20 years is probably the same as the entire history of Barnsley FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 15 hours ago, DlNGLE said: We’ve only got one player on loan. who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DlNGLE Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, dorian gray said: who? Dike, we’ve got a fee agreed for him, but he’ll probably choose to go to a top 6 teams under 23s squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, DlNGLE said: Dike, we’ve got a fee agreed for him, but he’ll probably choose to go to a top 6 teams under 23s squad. 23 minutes ago, DlNGLE said: Dike, we’ve got a fee agreed for him, but he’ll probably choose to go to a top 6 teams under 23s squad. how many has he scored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewings Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 9 in 19? Quality player tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 12 hours ago, Ray Von shabba said: It's more than that. They have an excellent recruitment and scouting team and policy. You'll not see Barnsley signing crocks, has beens and journeymen. The American Dike is a prime example and they also accept that they have to move players on. A recruitment model we should copy. i'm not in the slightest convinced that what we have for club management is capable of much of that. IF they'd had to run 100m in under 13 seconds to be paid, many of our squad would have been on benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 12 hours ago, SiJ said: Apparently, this is what Barnsley do too, but they are actually good at it. see, we are learning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken52 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 As I said in another topic last week, Barnsley have applied the Moneyball tactic of finding players to fit the positions they needed. If you watch the Brad Pitt film Moneyball you'll see what I mean. The Barnsley owner was on tv a few weeks ago explaining it. They look for players who are very capable of doing a good consistent job but who for some reason are ignored by other clubs. They can then get them cheaper and they know the players strengths and weaknesses. It's all about research, not just 'oh he's a good player let's sign him.' Things have changed, let's get with it. Watch the film though it's very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 13 hours ago, Ray Von shabba said: It's more than that. They have an excellent recruitment and scouting team and policy. You'll not see Barnsley signing crocks, has beens and journeymen. The American Dike is a prime example and they also accept that they have to move players on. A recruitment model we should copy. This 100%. It's worked for them over the last few years, but now we are out of the EU how will it work, same with Brentford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rodger Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Better manager than us.. Monk, Pulis and to a lesser extent Moore, are all to blame for this horror show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von shabba Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 3 hours ago, matthefish2002 said: In last 20 years I would say our on the field record is nearly the same as Barnsley. TBF that's in the past and history, we are talking about what to do going forward. Since Billy Beanes Pacific Media group took over from the Cryne family, they've been building a very good young squad at little cost. @ken52 said earlier, they've adopted a type of moneyball system, which is proved to work. As I said earlier, you'll not see them signing 'big names' journeymen etc. their policy is totally different. Look at players they brought in and moved on for big pay days, Keiffer Moore, Conor Hourihane etc. Times have changed due to EFL regulations, players wages etc. you can no longer just throw money at it, as we well know. We need to get on board sharpish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von shabba Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, Rodger said: Better manager than us.. Monk, Pulis and to a lesser extent Moore, are all to blame for this horror show. Yep and be honest, who had ever heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Moneyball, scene 16, pre season recruitment conference. Adults only could attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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