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Apologies if already discussed, just seen a post on twitter from Nick De Marco, the guy who represented us in the P&S breach case. I know the fact we have been late with wages has been mentioned in relation to possible points deductions on here before but this is the first time I have seen it mentioned specifically in the press. Excerpt if from the Daily Mail, note it says 'if' sanctions are brought rather than suggesting they will be. 

 

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The article references Macclesfield being deducted points but I think their circumstances were somewhat different to ours. 

 

Piece above it also suggests others on the brink of trouble regarding the financial rules in the Championship. 

 

I'd be shocked if the EFL took further action and deducted more points from us this season given how they messed it up last time around and it isn't as if our payments are not being made eventually. The recent scrapping of the salary caps has also done them no favours either, can't see them being keen on pursuing this right now.

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22 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said:

Apologies if already discussed, just seen a post on twitter from Nick De Marco, the guy who represented us in the P&S breach case. I know the fact we have been late with wages has been mentioned in relation to possible points deductions on here before but this is the first time I have seen it mentioned specifically in the press. Excerpt if from the Daily Mail, note it says 'if' sanctions are brought rather than suggesting they will be. 

 

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The article references Macclesfield being deducted points but I think their circumstances were somewhat different to ours. 

 

Piece above it also suggests others on the brink of trouble regarding the financial rules in the Championship. 

 

I'd be shocked if the EFL took further action and deducted more points from us this season given how they messed it up last time around and it isn't as if our payments are not being made eventually. The recent scrapping of the salary caps has also done them no favours either, can't see them being keen on pursuing this right now.


I think the EFL will avoid points deductions if possible. It could get very messy and if multiple teams are docked points in a given season it would bring the integrity of the competition into question. They don’t want that. Also, the possibility of appeals and delays to the following season would be a nightmare scenario. 

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It's all such an interwoven web of rules and people isn't it


I wasn't aware the PFA had decided to get the pay cap scrapped which means we go back to FFP


That's a talking point in itself


 


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8 minutes ago, crookesowl said:

The EFL can do one. 
 

In the most financially challenging season in history we have still paid all our players. 

Eventually 🤣🤣🤣

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Can't see the EFL bothered who they sanction. 

To them all teams are subject to the rules and any misuse will be prosecuted,  it's not a problem for them to take  Clubs to court as it's the Clubs who pay them in the first place.

So if they believe (x) amount of Clubs have broken the rules they will prosecute all of them.

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13 minutes ago, Hitcat said:

If the EFL start docking points during the pandemic, I'll think it'll be the end of them.


Exactly, the bad press they’ll receive is nothing they’ll want to avoid. 

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5 minutes ago, SwellOwl said:


Exactly, the bad press they’ll receive is nothing they’ll want to avoid. 


True, but they’ll need to make sure they don’t open themselves up to setting a precedent in not doing so which clubs can use to argue against any sanctions post pandemic.

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41 minutes ago, i used to be sc_owl said:


I think the EFL will avoid points deductions if possible. It could get very messy and if multiple teams are docked points in a given season it would bring the integrity of the competition into question. They don’t want that. Also, the possibility of appeals and delays to the following season would be a nightmare scenario. 

 

I was a bit reluctant to start the thread to be honest but it is a national press piece relating to our club.

As I said in the OP, it is very much speculation, all 'ifs' rather than anything concrete but the rules do indicate sanctions can be taken against cubs not making payments on time. 

I agree with you though, I just can't see it being pursued at the moment. The club is making the payments and when so many businesses are going to the wall as a result of income lost to the pandemic, to take action against clubs for internal issues like this now would not reflect well on the EFL. 

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If the EFL attacks clubs during the pandemic because of difficulties arising from said pandemic expect mass succession from the league at best and riots at worst and rightfully so. 

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Wouldn't surprise me if the EFL tried to nail us for late wage payments after we made them look like a set of morons getting the six pts back. 

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All players have been paid n full loads of clubs have deferred payments and others in much worse situation. EFL will eventually read law and realise they have not fit for purpose scheme which id=f somebody took high court route would fall apart as did not treat all clubs fair and equally.

 

With cash flow problems the world over and most companies suffering it would be a diabolical decision.  Chances are loads of clubs will need bailing out and new investors as debts will have grown for all. Therefore they need to attract money into game not stop rich people investing. 

 

The reason they will cancel P&S is it does do not do what is intended. 

 

If they want to take heat out of Championship parachute payments need stopping. 

 

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31 minutes ago, S36 OWL said:

Wouldn't surprise me if the EFL tried to nail us for late wage payments after we made them look like a set of morons getting the six pts back. 

 

This is triggered by player complaints to the PFA who then seek remedial action. As far as we know this has not happened.

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