sharrowowl Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, markowl said: And while we've got people justifying abuse like you have, the problem will never go away. In no way have I said the alleged tweet Alex refers to us just or justifiable. What punishment would you like to see for the person that allegedly said "I hope your dad dies of covid". I'm sure his/her account has been deleted. Are we talking fines/jail sentence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, sharrowowl said: In no way have I said the alleged tweet Alex refers to us just or justifiable. What punishment would you like to see for the person that allegedly said "I hope your dad dies of covid". I'm sure his/her account has been deleted. I bet you it hasn't Those kind of comments/ tweets are quite regular on Twitter Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharrowowl Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: But it takes two to tango - you goad me I'm ok to attack your nan That's how you said it works right? More false equivalence then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, sharrowowl said: In no way have I said the alleged tweet Alex refers to us just or justifiable. What punishment would you like to see for the person that allegedly said "I hope your dad dies of covid". I'm sure his/her account has been deleted. Are we talking fines/jail sentence? Well, a blasé "technically speaking it wasn't a death threat" approach is not the answer. A visit from the police, and/or a fine must be the way forward, because banning and deleting accounts is not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: That happened recently on Twitter to a local kid who posted some horrific racist and other views in a video So so bad - and that's how he got dealt with And his Girlfriend who was in the video laugghing at what he was saying - she got suspended immediately from her job too He got sacked by the local football team he managed too Had to go into hiding though as people were looking to cave his head in Also got arrested for the video he posted I literally (still) can’t believe what I watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Kopparberg said: I literally (still) can’t believe what I watched. I know - it was a 'right.. I'm a bit bored... how could I totally ruin my life in a three minute video postt?' Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, sharrowowl said: More false equivalence then. Weird how it works innit It's ok if it's someone else but not if it happens to yourself type thing Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Until people have to verify who they are and their address to open an account, it will never stop At least if they have to do that there is no excuse not to find them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharrowowl Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, markowl said: Well, a blasé "technically speaking it wasn't a death threat" approach is not the answer. A visit from the police, and/or a fine must be the way forward, because banning and deleting accounts is not working. Ah OK. I just find that a slippery road to be going down... And we're certainly well along that road already. An actual death threat I would agree of course. But what Alex is alleging was said is not a death threat. That's not really arguable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, sharrowowl said: Ah OK. I just find that a slippery road to be going down... And we're certainly well along that road already. An actual death threat I would agree of course. But what Alex is alleging was said is not a death threat. That's not really arguable. To be fair that was my fault for the thread title (which I have changed) I read it somewhere else and did the same thread tittle Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, sharrowowl said: Ah OK. I just find that a slippery road to be going down... And we're certainly well along that road already. An actual death threat I would agree of course. But what Alex is alleging was said is not a death threat. That's not really arguable. Isn't the massive rise in racial abuse on social media more of a slippery road? Edited February 12, 2021 by markowl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I know - it was a 'right.. I'm a bit bored... how could I totally ruin my life in a three minute video postt?' Indeed. I don’t think I’ll ever grasp what his goal was for the video... other than some strange notoriety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharrowowl Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Weird how it works innit It's ok if it's someone else but not if it happens to yourself type thing Again, false equivalence but in reality if someone wished death on grandma on twitter (she's already dead of course) I'd probably ignore it not wanting to give them the notoriety they crave rather than going on the radio and complaining about people saying nasty things about my multi millionaire dad and encouraging the police to get involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: thread tittle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, sharrowowl said: Again, false equivalence but in reality if someone wished death on grandma on twitter (she's already dead of course) I'd probably ignore it not wanting to give them the notoriety they crave rather than going on the radio and complaining about people saying nasty things about my multi millionaire dad and encouraging the police to get involved. People say stuff like this but the second relentless hate headed their way relentlessly they'd not be able to cope We're all humans We should be sound with one another Not sitting posting excuses for why someone's not sound to another human Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, markowl said: Why should it be "the celebs" who have to leave social media? Why can't people interact with them without resorting to vile abuse? Because we don't live in a perfect world. Why do we have to have jails? why can't people just stop breaking the law 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: Indeed. I don’t think I’ll ever grasp what his goal was for the video... other than some strange notoriety He's deffo got that from it - and then some Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Because we don't live in a perfect world. Why do we have to have jails? why can't people just stop breaking the law So using your logic, potential victims of crime should never leave the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharrowowl Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: To be fair that was my fault for the thread title (which I have changed) I read it somewhere else and did the same thread tittle Fair dos Neil, I don't want to fall out I'm just a bit worried about this whole censorship, cancel culture thing I think it's a slippery slope. I don't think it's a police matter unless violence is directly threatened. I understand as a forum creator its a sensitive subject for you and alot of pressure to do the right thing. Totally get that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, sharrowowl said: Fair dos Neil, I don't want to fall out I'm just a bit worried about this whole censorship, cancel culture thing I think it's a slippery slope. I don't think it's a police matter unless violence is directly threatened. I understand as a forum creator its a sensitive subject for you and alot of pressure to do the right thing. Totally get that. I hear you on the cancel culture - that's deffo gotta stop I do know where you are coming from and understand many many people also think the same way 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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