adelphi1867 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 All reporters are told what to do by their editors, and the editors by the owners of the Media involved. Where is the democracy and freedom of the press in that?. Still it gives any one another stick to beat the club with I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Yep absolutely. That’s all about good PR which in turn is good for business. That's kinda the point Nigel Pearson is making amongst others Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 Just now, adelphi1867 said: All reporters are told what to do by their editors, and the editors by the owners of the Media involved. It's not 1965 mate Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 Just now, adelphi1867 said: All reporters are told what to do by their editors, and the editors by the owners of the Media involved. Where is the democracy and freedom of the press in that?. Still it gives any one another stick to beat the club with I suppose. @Toadie@YesWeCrann - are you ever dictated to by your editors on a day to day basis when doing your pieces and writing your articles? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 minute ago, adelphi1867 said: Still it gives any one another stick to beat the club with I suppose. Do you know how stupid you sound when you type this cliche? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: That's kinda the point Nigel Pearson is making amongst others Hmm it’s not really. All privately owned companies and public sector organisations have their own PR teams and control news from their perspective. It’s part of managing the reputation of a large organisation or business. Media outlets are completely free to scrutinise what they say and write about it on a variety of different platforms. It’s not like DC is stopping the Sheffield Star or The Daily Mirror writing an article which paints a negative picture of the club? That would be a dictatorship. A club controlling their own media output is not. Edited February 11, 2021 by SallyCinnamon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 52 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Think you're in the wrong thread completely Freedom of speech is what I believe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: Media outlets are completely free to scrutinise what they say and write about it on a variety of different platforms. That's literally not the point that Pearson is referring to He's not talking about what outlets can and cannot report He's saying that clubs shouldn't control the output by only choosing one reporter or one publication to do their output through But you know this and you're just playing your usual Mary Contrary character Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Our club is desperate for someone who is good at PR. ....That doesn’t get sacked after a few weeks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 minute ago, daleblue said: Freedom of speech is what I believe in. Do you honestly believe that ever existed? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: Do you honestly believe that ever existed? No I dont, but the little we have should be defended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, daleblue said: Freedom of speech is what I believe in. 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Do you honestly believe that ever existed? Just now, daleblue said: No I dont I gotta say sometimes the comedy just writes itself sometimes Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 He's got a point. Look at the pet journalists Liverpool, Man City have got. They very rarely criticise as too concerned about access getting stopped. Liverpool are a shadow of last seasons team and get an easy ride.....better not mention anything else about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: That's literally not the point that Pearson is referring to He's not talking about what outlets can and cannot report He's saying that clubs shouldn't control the output by only choosing one reporter or one publication to do their output through But you know this and you're just playing your usual Mary Contrary character Not at all. This is what Nigel said: “If all we get is journalism from the perspective of the football club, we’re moving towards a dictatorial state and that’s not what we are. “If we don’t have [independent journalism] we may as well not bother, we may as well live in a Communist state where we’re taught not to think.” 1. We don’t just get journalism from the perspective of the club. For one the club don’t employ journalists - they employ a a Comms team to manage the reputation of the club and communicate to customers (whether they’re good at that is a different story). 2. Nowhere in what you copied in to the OP does he say - ‘clubs shouldn't control the output by only choosing one reporter or one publication to do their output through.’ Apologies if he said this in the original article. 3. I don’t have a clue what point he is trying to make. We are living in a time where independent journalism is absolutely thriving, particularly in football where anyone can criticise, hold to account and scrutinise a football club. As a privately run business a football club doesn’t have to give interviews or be transparent about everything if they don’t want to be. 4. Football clubs don’t control what independent media outlets report. If they did this would be a dictatorial regime. A football club controlling its own PR and Comms is not dictatorial. All I’m doing is pointing out the fact Nigel is waffling and his point is daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Harrysgame said: He's got a point. Look at the pet journalists Liverpool, Man City have got. They very rarely criticise as too concerned about access getting stopped. Liverpool are a shadow of last seasons team and get an easy ride.....better not mention anything else about them Really? Klopp and Liverpool have been hammered in the press recently. I sometimes get the impression fans want journalists to go up to a manager and shout at them angrily ‘YOUR RUBBISH WHY ARE YOU RUBBISH, EXPLAIN WHY YOU’RE RUBBISH’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Wait till/if we get to the Premier League. Be no, oh we only talk to one journalist/media outlet then. We will be doing as we are told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 Just now, SallyCinnamon said: I sometimes get the impression fans want journalists to go up to a manager and shout at them angrily ‘YOUR RUBBISH WHY ARE YOU RUBBISH, EXPLAIN WHY YOU’RE RUBBISH’ Not really no Nobody wants that Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: All I’m doing is pointing out the fact Nigel is waffling and his point is daft. Nope - he's saying what most sane people are Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Not really no Nobody wants that What does Nigel want clubs to be doing then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Do you know how stupid you sound when you type this cliche? I thought we were being nice and kind to each other or has that finished now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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