FreshOwl Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Nothing but facts from Big Nige 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: I doesn't surprise me that our owner has a grip on outgoing media. Where have we seen examples of that from regimes throughout history. Isn’t this how every club operates though? I think we lack transparency in certain areas but DC has held three media briefings in the last three months where all media were allowed to attend. People write all sorts about him and the way he runs things online. Not like he’s controlling the media side of things to soften criticism. It’s also not unusual for organisations and companies to turn down interviews or only do interviews for certain outlets. That’s not exclusive to Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, daleblue said: I think we may be at x purposes, so I may in fact be making the point that free journalism is good, is that what you're saying? Think you're in the wrong thread completely Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Isn’t this how every club operates though? You think every club operates like ours when it comes to local journalists and writers? Crikey Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 I don’t really understand what Nigel is getting at here to be honest. News coming out of the club from the club is always going to be from the clubs perspective and will be done in a way to limit reputational damage. That’s the same for any organisation and big company no? Other media outlets are completely free to criticise or discuss what is happening at any football club as they wish. In terms of restricting access, well the club is 100% Chansiri’s. I mean I could write to Coca Cola and tell them the Cherry Flavoured version of the product I had was rubbish and I demand an interview with the CEO to discuss this. Won’t get a reply. So yeah not too sure what tree Pearson’s barking up here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 I don't get it.... Why should a private corporation be forced to talk to journalists? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hirstysfags Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 I tend to treats Dom's output the same as I do matchday magazines. Not worth bothering with. Both club sanctioned content. Fanzines and other journalists yes please. (this isn't a dig at Dom, just the way things are). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Nice to know it doesn't happen at Hillsborough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, fatzooma said: Been saying it for ages..DC runs SWFC like North Korea. Has he got a massive army, a network of undercover spies cyber attacking other countries? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Burnsie said: I don't get it.... Why should a private corporation be forced to talk to journalists? Exactly. The more I read what he’s saying the more I think it’s a load of absolute nonsense. He say this: “If all we get is journalism from the perspective of the football club, we’re moving towards a dictatorial state and that’s not what we are“ A load of waffle. Football clubs have all sorts written about them from what’s happening on the pitch to what is happening at boardroom level. I can’t think of any other private company that is open to scrutiny on the level that football clubs are. Bonkers stuff from Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 If you are a true Sheffield Wednesday fan, then you know that no news is ............. The norm ......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 It’s a funny old balancing act. I feel like it’s often ‘sit down shut up pay your money’ ... while we don’t know at times if we’re in a transfer embargo etc... then stick WAWAW on the shirts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: It’s a funny old balancing act. I feel like it’s often ‘sit down shut up pay your money’ ... while we don’t know at times if we’re in a transfer embargo etc... then stick WAWAW on the shirts. Problem is fans don’t like to hear it but football clubs no longer belong to them. They’re privately run companies and the owners can do as they please. They’re under no obligation to do interviews with whoever requests one, speak in detail about finances etc. Fans no longer have shares and have very little say. And to be honest, they don’t really have the right to have a say. We are customers now. That’s the way football has gone. Unfortunately. Thats not a dictatorship Nigel, that’s capitalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: It’s a funny old balancing act. I feel like it’s often ‘sit down shut up pay your money’ ... while we don’t know at times if we’re in a transfer embargo etc... then stick WAWAW on the shirts. You've got the hang of it lad .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 member when BBC Radio Sheff & the Stir were so scared of Dave Allen, they backed him to the hilt? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Problem is fans don’t like to hear it but football clubs no longer belong to them. They’re privately run companies and the owners can do as they please. They’re under no obligation to do interviews with whoever requests one, speak in detail about finances etc. Fans no longer have shares and have very little say. And to be honest, they don’t really have the right to have a say. They had their say when the sales figures for Club1867 dropped in Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: They had their say when the sales figures for Club1867 dropped in Well yeah exactly. As customers we can either decide to take our custom elsewhere or stop spending money. So not sure how Nigel is likening it to a dictatorial regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: not sure how Nigel is likening it to a dictatorial regime. I know - I can tell from your posts Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Problem is fans don’t like to hear it but football clubs no longer belong to them. They’re privately run companies and the owners can do as they please. They’re under no obligation to do interviews with whoever requests one, speak in detail about finances etc. Fans no longer have shares and have very little say. And to be honest, they don’t really have the right to have a say. We are customers now. That’s the way football has gone. Unfortunately. Thats not a dictatorship Nigel, that’s capitalism. I agree - but clubs like to play both sides - using the emotions of the fans - pretending to care about the community... and that’s ok with me, but I want honesty in return... the clubs could even volunteer information instead of being asked to... to give it that ‘honest’ feel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Just now, Kopparberg said: I agree - but clubs like to play both sides - using the emotions of the fans - pretending to care about the community... and that’s ok with me, but I want honesty in return... the clubs could even volunteer information instead of being asked to... to give it that ‘honest’ feel. Yep absolutely. That’s all about good PR which in turn is good for business. I think in certain aspects we’re very good at that though? The Time To Talk thing we did last week and the Christmas present thing we do every year for hospitals. Fans tend to want answers when things aren’t going well. If we’re smashing the league then very rarely people will knock on the chairman’s door demanding what’s going on and what they’re gonna do about it. When we struggle though fans will want to know what’s going on and scrutinise every aspect of the club. The constant remains that the club is under no obligation to be transparent about every aspect of the business model and how they operate. I think the club could do so much more to and mend the current fragile relationship between owner and fans. But at the end of the day Chansiri doesn’t have too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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