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Hello Owls I'm an aspiring youtube content creator and so far i've only done videos about my own team (Birmingham City), but im looking to make a video or 2 about Championship teams who are in bad situations. Teams like Birmingham, Sheffield Weds, Derby, Coventry who've had trouble with the EFL, points deductions, stadium issues etc. It's not something that gets a lot of attention and i think it would be interesting and quite funny as well. 

 

So my question to all of you is, what the story with sheffield wednesday? How did you get from play offs 2 seasons in a row, to having a points deduction and fighting for your lives (although i think you will stay up), and how bad actually is the situation right now at your club.

 

Thanks for your help and here's my channel if you're interested in what i've made so far.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjZhMoPpIkgUzAzipzAW9Gg

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1 hour ago, TCFC Videos said:

Hello Owls I'm an aspiring youtube content creator and so far i've only done videos about my own team (Birmingham City), but im looking to make a video or 2 about Championship teams who are in bad situations. Teams like Birmingham, Sheffield Weds, Derby, Coventry who've had trouble with the EFL, points deductions, stadium issues etc. It's not something that gets a lot of attention and i think it would be interesting and quite funny as well. 

 

So my question to all of you is, what the story with sheffield wednesday? How did you get from play offs 2 seasons in a row, to having a points deduction and fighting for your lives (although i think you will stay up), and how bad actually is the situation right now at your club.

 

Thanks for your help and here's my channel if you're interested in what i've made so far.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjZhMoPpIkgUzAzipzAW9Gg

Dont be fooled by the league table.

 

We are aiming for the playoffs, and hopefully promotion , this season.  

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And because we want to be special, we are not looking for just any manager. We are looking for a manager who is not a manager but a first team coach. Currently having some difficulties in filling the vacancy for some reason.

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9 minutes ago, Kevan said:

Hi TCFC!  Thank you for visiting our site with a rather different agenda from the usual "opposition" fans!

 

The story here can be summed up in a sentence, but I will elaborate further below:-

 

Chairman (Chansiri) buys a football club as a "toy" and immediately admits he knows nothing about football, - he then proceeds to demonstrate that what he had said was absolutely and completely true.

 

When he first arrived at the club, he appointed a number of people who were experienced in football, either as former players / coaches or on the management side.  He formed a "committee" with these people and initially the signs looked positive.  Under Carlos Carvalhal and in concert with the committee, decent signings were made and on the playing side there was progress which ultimately took us to the play off final.  The brand of football that first season was frequently very attractive and exciting to watch.  Unfortunately as is frequently the case across the years of our history, on the day of the play-off final, we "didn't turn up" and were defeated by a Hull City side who definitely did turn up.

 

In the following season, a more pragmatic and less attractive style of football was adopted and we scraped into the play-offs, losing in the semi-final, even though with a more attacking style, we all know, we could have beaten Huddersfield Town, who then went on to be promoted, winning the play-off final.  In the meantime, ticket prices were raised dramatically and Pay On The Day fans were pretty much priced out, with an apparent preference for "encouraging" fans to buy season tickets.

 

Since that second season under the current Chairman / Owner, we have had a steady decline, which was principally caused by overspending on too many high price, high salaried players, whom we could probably have done as well or better without.  In particular,a figure of around £8 million on Jordan Rhodes when we had Forestieri, Joao, Winnall, Nuhiu, Hooper and Fletcher already on the books.  Several players were purchased who never or rarely appeared in the matchday squad.  This is illustrated as an example by the signing of Almen Abdi for around £3 milllion, who played a handful of games and was pretty well always injured for the rest of his time with the club.

 

One by one, the people with experience left the club and from what we can gather, the cause of these departures seems to be that Chansiri, although admitting he knows nothing about football, does not listen to the advice of people who have the relevant knowledge and experience.  He seems to prefer to make his own unilateral decisions and go his own way.  He does however, seem to listen to an "adviser" who is also an agent.  The said adviser recommends players under his management, many of whom have disappointed.  Chansiri seems unable to recognise that the adviser / agent is feathering his own nest, rather than acting in the best interests of the club.

 

The overspending during the above mentioned period meant that the club had exceeded the P&S rules and the Chairman decided to "sell" the ground in order to correct the overspend.  He ended up taking too long to complete the sale and ended up trying to backdate the transaction into a previous year's accounts.  An action that was discovered in an EFL investigation and resulted in a deduction of 12 points to take effect at the beginning of the current season.  The penalty was reduced on appeal to 6 points.

 

As a result we are now in the position of having a threadbare squad, having lost quite a few of the successful side due to the expiry of their contracts and with half a dozen more due to expire in June 2021, we may well end up having to scrape by on free transfers and loans to make up next season's squad.

 

A succession of managers have come and gone - again seemingly recommended by the adviser / agent and currently we are under the caretaker charge of one of our long term coaches who has in the past been coaching the junior squads. To be fair, he is doing a decent job, but we remain perilously close to relegation with very little movement during the recent transfer window.

 

We "older" supporters have been through these depressing periods over and over again since the 1960s, but somehow this time there's a feeling for some of us, that the club is no longer ours and the excitement and anticipation that we once felt on matchdays, has given way to expecting the worst and just hoping to avoid embarrassment.  Recent matches have shown improved results with the caretaker head coach, but performances are still not setting the world alight.  Realistically, we can only hope to survive in the championship, - and that the owner finds a buyer who will re-set the club and run it on a much more professional and fan-friendly manner.  However, whether any potential buyer would meet Chansiri's asking price seems extremely doubtful.

 

As always, - time will tell.  Who knows what the next chapter holds.

 

 

Thank You very much!! That's exactly what looking for. Quite a few similarities between you and blues  - especially with the incompetent owner. My plan is to make a list of Top 10 f**ked up teams, but after to do a long individual video on different clubs, and this info will really help! 

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34 minutes ago, Kevan said:

Hi TCFC!  Thank you for visiting our site with a rather different agenda from the usual "opposition" fans!

 

The story here can be summed up in a sentence, but I will elaborate further below:-

 

Chairman (Chansiri) buys a football club as a "toy" and immediately admits he knows nothing about football, - he then proceeds to demonstrate that what he had said was absolutely and completely true.

 

When he first arrived at the club, he appointed a number of people who were experienced in football, either as former players / coaches or on the management side.  He formed a "committee" with these people and initially the signs looked positive.  Under Carlos Carvalhal and in concert with the committee, decent signings were made and on the playing side there was progress which ultimately took us to the play off final.  The brand of football that first season was frequently very attractive and exciting to watch.  Unfortunately as is frequently the case across the years of our history, on the day of the play-off final, we "didn't turn up" and were defeated by a Hull City side who definitely did turn up.

 

In the following season, a more pragmatic and less attractive style of football was adopted and we scraped into the play-offs, losing in the semi-final, even though with a more attacking style, we all know, we could have beaten Huddersfield Town, who then went on to be promoted, winning the play-off final.  In the meantime, ticket prices were raised dramatically and Pay On The Day fans were pretty much priced out, with an apparent preference for "encouraging" fans to buy season tickets.

 

Since that second season under the current Chairman / Owner, we have had a steady decline, which was principally caused by overspending on too many high price, high salaried players, whom we could probably have done as well or better without.  In particular,a figure of around £8 million on Jordan Rhodes when we had Forestieri, Joao, Winnall, Nuhiu, Hooper and Fletcher already on the books.  Several players were purchased who never or rarely appeared in the matchday squad.  This is illustrated as an example by the signing of Almen Abdi for around £3 milllion, who played a handful of games and was pretty well always injured for the rest of his time with the club.

 

One by one, the people with experience left the club and from what we can gather, the cause of these departures seems to be that Chansiri, although admitting he knows nothing about football, does not listen to the advice of people who have the relevant knowledge and experience.  He seems to prefer to make his own unilateral decisions and go his own way.  He does however, seem to listen to an "adviser" who is also an agent.  The said adviser recommends players under his management, many of whom have disappointed.  Chansiri seems unable to recognise that the adviser / agent is feathering his own nest, rather than acting in the best interests of the club.

 

The overspending during the above mentioned period meant that the club had exceeded the P&S rules and the Chairman decided to "sell" the ground in order to correct the overspend.  He ended up taking too long to complete the sale and ended up trying to backdate the transaction into a previous year's accounts.  An action that was discovered in an EFL investigation and resulted in a deduction of 12 points to take effect at the beginning of the current season.  The penalty was reduced on appeal to 6 points.

 

As a result we are now in the position of having a threadbare squad, having lost quite a few of the successful side due to the expiry of their contracts and with half a dozen more due to expire in June 2021, we may well end up having to scrape by on free transfers and loans to make up next season's squad.

 

A succession of managers have come and gone - again seemingly recommended by the adviser / agent and currently we are under the caretaker charge of one of our long term coaches who has in the past been coaching the junior squads. To be fair, he is doing a decent job, but we remain perilously close to relegation with very little movement during the recent transfer window.

 

We "older" supporters have been through these depressing periods over and over again since the 1960s, but somehow this time there's a feeling for some of us, that the club is no longer ours and the excitement and anticipation that we once felt on matchdays, has given way to expecting the worst and just hoping to avoid embarrassment.  Recent matches have shown improved results with the caretaker head coach, but performances are still not setting the world alight.  Realistically, we can only hope to survive in the championship, - and that the owner finds a buyer who will re-set the club and run it on a much more professional and fan-friendly manner.  However, whether any potential buyer would meet Chansiri's asking price seems extremely doubtful.

 

As always, - time will tell.  Who knows what the next chapter holds.

 

 

Basically this -

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1 hour ago, TCFC Videos said:

 

how bad actually is the situation right now at your club

 

"Anyone who thinks the situation is bad doesn't know anything about football"

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49 minutes ago, Kevan said:

Hi TCFC!  Thank you for visiting our site with a rather different agenda from the usual "opposition" fans!

 

The story here can be summed up in a sentence, but I will elaborate further below:-

 

Chairman (Chansiri) buys a football club as a "toy" and immediately admits he knows nothing about football, - he then proceeds to demonstrate that what he had said was absolutely and completely true.

 

When he first arrived at the club, he appointed a number of people who were experienced in football, either as former players / coaches or on the management side.  He formed a "committee" with these people and initially the signs looked positive.  Under Carlos Carvalhal and in concert with the committee, decent signings were made and on the playing side there was progress which ultimately took us to the play off final.  The brand of football that first season was frequently very attractive and exciting to watch.  Unfortunately as is frequently the case across the years of our history, on the day of the play-off final, we "didn't turn up" and were defeated by a Hull City side who definitely did turn up.

 

In the following season, a more pragmatic and less attractive style of football was adopted and we scraped into the play-offs, losing in the semi-final, even though with a more attacking style, we all know, we could have beaten Huddersfield Town, who then went on to be promoted, winning the play-off final.  In the meantime, ticket prices were raised dramatically and Pay On The Day fans were pretty much priced out, with an apparent preference for "encouraging" fans to buy season tickets.

 

Since that second season under the current Chairman / Owner, we have had a steady decline, which was principally caused by overspending on too many high price, high salaried players, whom we could probably have done as well or better without.  In particular,a figure of around £8 million on Jordan Rhodes when we had Forestieri, Joao, Winnall, Nuhiu, Hooper and Fletcher already on the books.  Several players were purchased who never or rarely appeared in the matchday squad.  This is illustrated as an example by the signing of Almen Abdi for around £3 milllion, who played a handful of games and was pretty well always injured for the rest of his time with the club.

 

One by one, the people with experience left the club and from what we can gather, the cause of these departures seems to be that Chansiri, although admitting he knows nothing about football, does not listen to the advice of people who have the relevant knowledge and experience.  He seems to prefer to make his own unilateral decisions and go his own way.  He does however, seem to listen to an "adviser" who is also an agent.  The said adviser recommends players under his management, many of whom have disappointed.  Chansiri seems unable to recognise that the adviser / agent is feathering his own nest, rather than acting in the best interests of the club.

 

The overspending during the above mentioned period meant that the club had exceeded the P&S rules and the Chairman decided to "sell" the ground in order to correct the overspend.  He ended up taking too long to complete the sale and ended up trying to backdate the transaction into a previous year's accounts.  An action that was discovered in an EFL investigation and resulted in a deduction of 12 points to take effect at the beginning of the current season.  The penalty was reduced on appeal to 6 points.

 

As a result we are now in the position of having a threadbare squad, having lost quite a few of the successful side due to the expiry of their contracts and with half a dozen more due to expire in June 2021, we may well end up having to scrape by on free transfers and loans to make up next season's squad.

 

A succession of managers have come and gone - again seemingly recommended by the adviser / agent and currently we are under the caretaker charge of one of our long term coaches who has in the past been coaching the junior squads. To be fair, he is doing a decent job, but we remain perilously close to relegation with very little movement during the recent transfer window.

 

We "older" supporters have been through these depressing periods over and over again since the 1960s, but somehow this time there's a feeling for some of us, that the club is no longer ours and the excitement and anticipation that we once felt on matchdays, has given way to expecting the worst and just hoping to avoid embarrassment.  Recent matches have shown improved results with the caretaker head coach, but performances are still not setting the world alight.  Realistically, we can only hope to survive in the championship, - and that the owner finds a buyer who will re-set the club and run it on a much more professional and fan-friendly manner.  However, whether any potential buyer would meet Chansiri's asking price seems extremely doubtful.

 

As always, - time will tell.  Who knows what the next chapter holds.

 

 

 

Very nice, but you didn't mention cake ball

 

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49 minutes ago, Kevan said:

Hi TCFC!  Thank you for visiting our site with a rather different agenda from the usual "opposition" fans!

 

The story here can be summed up in a sentence, but I will elaborate further below:-

 

Chairman (Chansiri) buys a football club as a "toy" and immediately admits he knows nothing about football, - he then proceeds to demonstrate that what he had said was absolutely and completely true.

 

When he first arrived at the club, he appointed a number of people who were experienced in football, either as former players / coaches or on the management side.  He formed a "committee" with these people and initially the signs looked positive.  Under Carlos Carvalhal and in concert with the committee, decent signings were made and on the playing side there was progress which ultimately took us to the play off final.  The brand of football that first season was frequently very attractive and exciting to watch.  Unfortunately as is frequently the case across the years of our history, on the day of the play-off final, we "didn't turn up" and were defeated by a Hull City side who definitely did turn up.

 

In the following season, a more pragmatic and less attractive style of football was adopted and we scraped into the play-offs, losing in the semi-final, even though with a more attacking style, we all know, we could have beaten Huddersfield Town, who then went on to be promoted, winning the play-off final.  In the meantime, ticket prices were raised dramatically and Pay On The Day fans were pretty much priced out, with an apparent preference for "encouraging" fans to buy season tickets.

 

Since that second season under the current Chairman / Owner, we have had a steady decline, which was principally caused by overspending on too many high price, high salaried players, whom we could probably have done as well or better without.  In particular,a figure of around £8 million on Jordan Rhodes when we had Forestieri, Joao, Winnall, Nuhiu, Hooper and Fletcher already on the books.  Several players were purchased who never or rarely appeared in the matchday squad.  This is illustrated as an example by the signing of Almen Abdi for around £3 milllion, who played a handful of games and was pretty well always injured for the rest of his time with the club.

 

One by one, the people with experience left the club and from what we can gather, the cause of these departures seems to be that Chansiri, although admitting he knows nothing about football, does not listen to the advice of people who have the relevant knowledge and experience.  He seems to prefer to make his own unilateral decisions and go his own way.  He does however, seem to listen to an "adviser" who is also an agent.  The said adviser recommends players under his management, many of whom have disappointed.  Chansiri seems unable to recognise that the adviser / agent is feathering his own nest, rather than acting in the best interests of the club.

 

The overspending during the above mentioned period meant that the club had exceeded the P&S rules and the Chairman decided to "sell" the ground in order to correct the overspend.  He ended up taking too long to complete the sale and ended up trying to backdate the transaction into a previous year's accounts.  An action that was discovered in an EFL investigation and resulted in a deduction of 12 points to take effect at the beginning of the current season.  The penalty was reduced on appeal to 6 points.

 

As a result we are now in the position of having a threadbare squad, having lost quite a few of the successful side due to the expiry of their contracts and with half a dozen more due to expire in June 2021, we may well end up having to scrape by on free transfers and loans to make up next season's squad.

 

A succession of managers have come and gone - again seemingly recommended by the adviser / agent and currently we are under the caretaker charge of one of our long term coaches who has in the past been coaching the junior squads. To be fair, he is doing a decent job, but we remain perilously close to relegation with very little movement during the recent transfer window.

 

We "older" supporters have been through these depressing periods over and over again since the 1960s, but somehow this time there's a feeling for some of us, that the club is no longer ours and the excitement and anticipation that we once felt on matchdays, has given way to expecting the worst and just hoping to avoid embarrassment.  Recent matches have shown improved results with the caretaker head coach, but performances are still not setting the world alight.  Realistically, we can only hope to survive in the championship, - and that the owner finds a buyer who will re-set the club and run it on a much more professional and fan-friendly manner.  However, whether any potential buyer would meet Chansiri's asking price seems extremely doubtful.

 

As always, - time will tell.  Who knows what the next chapter holds.

 

 

Well said.

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1 hour ago, TCFC Videos said:

Thank You very much!! That's exactly what looking for. Quite a few similarities between you and blues  - especially with the incompetent owner. My plan is to make a list of Top 10 f**ked up teams, but after to do a long individual video on different clubs, and this info will really help! 

Be very dissapointed if we are not near the top of your table😉

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6 minutes ago, Therealrealist said:

Be very dissapointed if we are not near the top of your table😉

 

to be fair, he hasn't even gotten the half of it

 

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Basically, TCFC, our chairman i says it’s all the fault of the fans, or customers as he calls us.

 

You say you want your videos to be funny as well. We can do that. Our club is literally a comedy of errors.

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16 minutes ago, Hitcat said:

 

We overspent The EFL would not let us spend. End of thread.

 

:Chansiri:

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