BIG D Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, mcmigo said: Will be like Yaya Toure in that team and league. Good luck to him. To be fair, I'd be like Kevin De Bruyne and I'm 60. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, PARKOWL said: If that's your criteria then we may as well look in the Under 16s I assume you are applying the same logic to these players who haven't signed a new contract and I can guarantee their agents are trying to get them deals elsewhere as well as here Adam Reach Jordan Rhodes Osaze Urhoghide Joost van Aken Keiren Westwood Elias Kachunga Tom Lees Moses Odubajo Joey Pelupessy Matt Penney Barry Bannan Kadeem Harris Alex Hunt Is that a list of players who's contracts are expiring? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, BIG D said: It's been pointed out many times that these players will actually be playing for a deal somewhere (if not here). Shaw has already signed a contract Shaw will give more than half of those out of contract. Just like he did last night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Is that a list of players who's contracts are expiring? Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, BIG D said: It's been pointed out many times that these players will actually be playing for a deal somewhere (if not here). Shaw has already signed a contract Pulis said back in December that Bannan, Reach and Lees had all been offered extensions. If they were ‘fully committed’ as you put it wouldn’t they have already signed? Out of the starting 11 last night I’d be surprised if more than 3 or 4 are still here next season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Is that a list of players who's contracts are expiring? It is Its also a list of players who's agents will be contacting the majority of clubs to let them know they are free in the summer Its a list of players who will be getting told not to do anything to damage any potential move away or new contract here thus showing the exact same reported commitment that posters are saying Shaw should be dropped for Its Crackers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Me? I'd shove him in the car, put the foot down, drive him as fast as I can away from this Chairman, and shove him through the door at Celtic I'm astonished you are actively advocating the breaking of Covid guidelines after all you've said on the subject. Really disappointed in you Neil... Edited February 17, 2021 by markowl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just now, markowl said: I'm astonished you are actively advocating the breaking of Covid guidelines after all you've said on the subject. Really disappointed in you Neil... It'd be worth the fine Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, mcmigo said: Will be like Yaya Toure in that team and league. Good luck to him. Yep - he will be a blue whale in a paddling pool up there - such is the dire standard of Scottish football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I personally can't blame any player for wanting to leave this total shambles of a club whatever their age or ability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) Shaw is no different from the vast majority of other footballers that choose to (and in many cases, have to) do what they feel is right for them financially. If we are offering a fraction of what Celtic are offering then you can see why he decided to sign for Celtic. However, there are three sides to this story: Shaw’s, the club’s and the Owls fans’. The club will be aggrieved given the investment made and potential lost, Shaw may feel aggrieved that the club aren’t backing him with a good contract, but, in my opinion, it’s us fans that will feel most aggrieved; we want to see loyalty from Shaw and we want to see the club hold onto talented youngsters - we have seen neither. I absolutely don’t agree with abusing people but I can see why people are sounding off at the club and Shaw; this situation is soul destroying. Am I annoyed at Chansiri? Yes - three talented academy players have been allowed to leave in as many years. Will I wish Shaw well if he does leave for Celtic as we expect? No - I won’t abuse him but as he isn’t bothered about the fans or the club, I’ll not bother to wish him well. Edited February 17, 2021 by shandypants 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I note a few articles from the Celtic side this morning, stating he is being signed for their academy. Its a winner, winner, chicken dinner deal this, for everyone. We train the lad for 11 years and get nothing. He moves from first team football back into an academy, admittedly on much better wages. Celtic get a free asset, who a) might make the first team in a couple of years, or b) they will be able to sell back to an English club for a profit. His agent earns his bumper fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, shandypants said: Am I annoyed at Chansiri? Yes - three talented academy players have been allowed to leave in as many years. Will I wish Shaw well if he does leave for Celtic as we expect? No - I won’t abuse him but as he isn’t bothered about the fans or the club, I’ll not bother to wish him well. WTF?!? He's a lifelong blue and white blooded fan of the club He's one of us He's one of US (e.g this site) too He's loved Wednesday all his human life I just dont' know where you got this statement from 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, BIG D said: It's been pointed out many times that these players will actually be playing for a deal somewhere (if not here). Shaw has already signed a contract I really did wish modern day footballers thought like this, but the reality is with the exception of some of the Academy lads they really don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Luke Shaw is a low risk, cheap, gamble for Celtic who will be at best on the fringes of their first team squad or more likely signed for development squad. Anyone thinking he’s going up there to play regularly and will be like “Yaya Toure” is on cloud cuckoo land. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, shandypants said: I won’t abuse him but as he isn’t bothered about the fans or the club, I’ll not bother to wish him well. We'll find out who isn't bothered about the club over the next two months...one thing for sure is that Shaw won't be going through the motions like some of the other players who are out of contract 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: WTF?!? He's a lifelong blue and white blooded fan of the club He's one of us He's one of US (e.g this site) too He's loved Wednesday all his human life I just dont' know where you got this statement from Are you being sarcastic Neil or are you being serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, shandypants said: Shaw is no different from the vast majority of other footballers that choose to (and in many cases, have to) do what they feel is right for them financially. If we are offering a fraction of what Celtic are offering then you can see why he decided to sign for Celtic. However, there are three sides to this story: Shaw’s, the club’s and the Owls fans’. The club will be aggrieved given the investment made and potential lost, Shaw may feel aggrieved that the club aren’t backing him with a good contract, but, in my opinion, it’s us fans that will feel most aggrieved; we want to see loyalty from Shaw and we want to see the club hold onto talented youngsters - we have seen neither. I absolutely don’t agree with abusing people but I can see why people are sounding off at the club and Shaw; this situation is soul destroying. Am I annoyed at Chansiri? Yes - three talented academy players have been allowed to leave in as many years. Will I wish Shaw well if he does leave for Celtic as we expect? No - I won’t abuse him but as he isn’t bothered about the fans or the club, I’ll not bother to wish him well. Superb summary mate and exactly how I feel. He has been advised or chosen short term money over first team football. To give him his dues, he has seemingly given the club time to response to the Celtic interest. This Scottish/foreign loophole needs closing, its a disgrace they, like Leicester do not have to pay appropriate compensation. As for people abusing him, it is both terrible and upsetting. Why do people think they have the right to do it? Place him back into our academy and we move on. A really poor episode, again, as you say, the supporters taking the biggest hit, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, edinburghowl said: Luke Shaw is a low risk, cheap, gamble for Celtic who will be at best on the fringes of their first team squad or more likely signed for development squad. Anyone thinking he’s going up there to play regularly and will be like “Yaya Toure” is on cloud cuckoo land. Articles from the Celtic side this morning, already saying he has been signed for the academy. He's a virtual freebie, no risk.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I’m more concerned about us keeping Urhoghide now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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