kirksandallowl Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: Completely missing the point. If we continue to let our best young talents run down their contract and lose them for nowt - what is the actual point? What’s the point of the academy. What’s the point of developing young talent and investing time into them for years and years. What they go on to do is absolutely irrelevant. You do realise that EPPP means the premier league can take you players for virtually fizz all anyway don’t you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: No missing the point. So tired of explaining it all. Would Shaw have demanded first team wages this time last year if we had offered him a contract? I highly highly doubt it. Maybe not exactly this time, but he was in the 1st team squad last year so why wouldn't he have wanted first team wages ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Minton said: You're assuming we didn't offer him a contract. We offered him a contract. Chansiri subtly hinted that he was asking for too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: What? Shaw was part of the first team squad at the end of last season. If he’s going to be involved you offer him a contract to ensure this scenario doesn’t play out. Instead we offered him one a couple of weeks before he was free to talk to other clubs. Your telling me not one coach at the club spotted his potential? Captaining the U’18s to a title is not enough evidence this lad might become quite a good footballer and could be an asset to us in the future? How on earth anyone is defending this absolute fuckwittery is beyond me. So it's not DCs fault then. Try telling that to most of the posters on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, kirksandallowl said: You do realise that EPPP means the premier league can take you players for virtually fizz all anyway don’t you? Why do you keep missing the point. I’m literally spelling it out for you and you’re just not getting it. We ended up with no compensation for Hirst and very minimal compo for Shaw and Clare. Because we haven’t got our house in order. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Hookowl said: Maybe not exactly this time, but he was in the 1st team squad last year so why wouldn't he have wanted first team wages ? Exactly my point!!! You tie him down when he’s not demanding the world and then you hold all the aces when clubs come sniffing. Instead we put him in the shop window and give clubs free reign to poach him for nowt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Brommers said: So it's not DCs fault then. Try telling that to most of the posters on here. It is completely DC’s fault. It’s happening under his ownership. For the third time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 If Shaw was a Blades player, they'd have slapped a £2m tag on him already and probably got that fee If they wanted to sell him. We give away for free, the compensation is already spent on paying back overdue wages, and we hope he's worth £20m in future to someone else so we get 5%. Thank god we are not short of money and in a strong position in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gob_Bluth said: Yeah but you haven't though have you Believe what you like, but you’re wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Bluesteel said: Believe what you like, but you’re wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, 0wl18 said: We offered him a contract. Chansiri subtly hinted that he was asking for too much. If Shaw is asking for too much, why even bother opening negotiations with Bannan and Reach. If we can't re-sign a youth player what chance our highest earners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: It is completely DC’s fault. It’s happening under his ownership. For the third time. But you just posted the coaching staff should have been ensuring he was secured to an appropriate contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, striker said: If Shaw is asking for too much, why even bother opening negotiations with Bannan and Reach. If we can't re-sign a youth player what chance our highest earners. Completely agree. Should have had negotiations started at the beginning of the season and, if nothing was agreed, moved them on this window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Brommers said: But you just posted the coaching staff should have been ensuring he was secured to an appropriate contract. Urgh. Keep on defending this chairman. He’s doing us the world of good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Blue and white said: Way to go Chansiri, wait till Bannan, Reach, Westwood etc are following him at the end of the season. Just do the decent thing and put the club up for sale. Come on who's going to buy it for the price he will demand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerwyldesmullet Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Had a great game against Exeter Bundled a goal in v Boro Was like Rambo Bambi against Reading and nearly cost us the game and Er......:: thats it! Thanks Liam - good luck Me? I’ll save my support for the players that are trying to keep us in this league this year. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: Exactly my point!!! You tie him down when he’s not demanding the world and then you hold all the aces when clubs come sniffing. Instead we put him in the shop window and give clubs free reign to poach him for nowt. Sal, that's a bit of hindsight talking though. He originally signed a 3 year contract, you can't just keep giving young players extensive contracts hoping they'll justify it. He had his first senior game in July last year as a sub then started a game a few weeks later. He's been a bit up and down until recently and definitely deserves his place now. But we don't know when talks started with him regarding a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Exactly my point!!! You tie him down when he’s not demanding the world and then you hold all the aces when clubs come sniffing. Instead we put him in the shop window and give clubs free reign to poach him for nowt. And as a young player, you don't sign a deal until you're into your last 6 months so that you can attract better offers. So that you and not your club, hold all the aces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Hookowl said: Sal, that's a bit of hindsight talking though. He originally signed a 3 year contract, you can't just keep giving young players extensive contracts hoping they'll justify it. He had his first senior game in July last year as a sub then started a game a few weeks later. He's been a bit up and down until recently and definitely deserves his place now. But we don't know when talks started with him regarding a new contract. We are always saying in hindsight with this club aren’t we? Hindsight this, hindsight that. How about for once we show a bit of foresight. Everything we do in every aspect is reactive instead of proactive. And people genuinely wonder why we are staring relegation in the face and have gone horrendously backwards since DC got involved? Probably the EFL’s fault ain’t it. Or Covid. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 34 minutes ago, room0035 said: He is not better staying with us. When he does not know from month to month, if he will even get paid that does not a good footballer made. Clare in league one will be better paid than shaw, and that includes the 1 year deal DC will have offered. You think he'll get more games for Celtic then? As for wages, they are paid just not on time it would seem. Re Clare you've no idea what he is being paid nor what Shaw has been offered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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