room0035 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, SiJ said: And that's part of the reason why we have zero chance of staying up. The thing is though we had 10 players out of contract last season - Fessi, Fletcher, Hutch, Fox etc all left and we replaced then with Windass, Kachunga, Brown, Dunkley its like buying a new sport car and ripping out the engine and putting a Morris minor engine in. its going to look good but the performance is going to be useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sefton owl said: He’s definitely got potential but let’s see how he performs over the course of a season (well it looks like we won’t be able to in the championship) but consistency is key Could turn out to be another Jordan Thorniley/George Hirst...some good early games but then prooved not to be good enough for championship level. without sounding bitter, lets hope for our case it’s the same with Shaw. In which case it wouldn’t be as big a loss as what it would appear now. Its the principle. If we keep letting our best young players leave for peanuts. Sooner or later one will bite us on the arse. Shaw has all the attributes to go for a lot of money. That potential won’t be realised by here because our chairman is completely incapable of running a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, pat blondeau said: The out of contract list in June: Barry Bannan Kadeem Harris Alex Hunt Elias Kachunga Tom Lees Moses Odubajo Joey Pelupessy Matt Penney Adam Reach Jordan Rhodes Liam Shaw Osaze Urhoghide Joost van Aken Keiren Westwood and Sam Hutchinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: Perhaps that's what he was told. I’m sure Thompson would know whether one of our players is injured or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 55 minutes ago, Derbyshireowl3 said: No doubt he will be worth millions in 5 years time too. Just be our luck Luck has nothing to do with it. Incompetence has however, as it has for the last 20+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, mcmigo said: and Sam Hutchinson I read Hutch’s contract includes an incentive where he’ll get another year if he plays enough games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, mcmigo said: and Sam Hutchinson Isnt there an option of another year? wouldn't surprise me if we took it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Reg Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, pat blondeau said: The out of contract list in June: Barry Bannan Kadeem Harris Alex Hunt Elias Kachunga Tom Lees Moses Odubajo Joey Pelupessy Matt Penney Adam Reach Jordan Rhodes Liam Shaw Osaze Urhoghide Joost van Aken Keiren Westwood WIthout piling on misery, according to the transfermarkt.co.uk, in contract players for next season are; Julian Börner Liam Palmer Callum Paterson Massimo Luongo Dominic Iorfa Chey Dunkley Josh Windass Joe Wildsmith Korede Adedoyin Fisayo Dele-Bashiru Cameron Dawson Not sure how long Andre Green and Sam Hutchinson have signed for. I suspect we have options to extend on a few of those out of contract at the end of this season. If we get relegated other clubs will pick off most of those on the cheap. Only Dele-Bashiru's and Dawson's contract run past the 21/22 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I knew he probably wasn’t injured. It’s an obvious defence tactic used by the club. They’re hardly gonna say he’s not in the squad because he’s talking to Celtic are they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FoxOwl12 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 The next prospect to go. Dele-Bashiri. The one ray of light in that totally abject performance last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Good prospect Shaw but only had the outstanding game against 4th division Exeter. This reminds me of kid that went to Hearts other year, he's turned out that good I can't even remember his bloody name. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, bradowl said: Good prospect Shaw but only had the outstanding game against 4th division Exeter. This reminds me of kid that went to Hearts other year, he's turned out that good I can't even remember his bloody name. *bangs head against brick wall, as posters continue to miss the key point in all of this* 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc_Degryse Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 If he goes he goes, so long as we get some money for him and hopefully a sell on fee. Priorities are not really midfield/CB atm, use the cash to buy a CF. Looked like he had some potential but by the same stroke could be yet another failed academy product in a year or two's time, so won't lose any sleep over this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, bradowl said: Good prospect Shaw but only had the outstanding game against 4th division Exeter. This reminds me of kid that went to Hearts other year, he's turned out that good I can't even remember his bloody name. Sean Clare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, bradowl said: Good prospect Shaw but only had the outstanding game against 4th division Exeter. This reminds me of kid that went to Hearts other year, he's turned out that good I can't even remember his bloody name. The fact that he might turn out crap yet makes it even worse. If we cant even keep hold of the ones that dont eventually make the grade then what chance have we got if we actually get one that will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 You’ve got to give it to the club I don’t think they could get it as bad if they had advisors trying to make it worse I mean if the George Hirst fiasco want enough they stock pile senior pros on large contracts and let them run down failing to capatalise on the few offers we may have to turn a profit and attempt to reduce the defecit to balance the books they rarely send promising young talent out on loan. when young players look at breaking through they don’t secure the assets by Gettimg them signed up this will be the second homegrown FAN of the club that they have some how let leave for peanuts The way we handle our playing staff and youth is shambolic who ever is advising chansiri needs to go but chansiri has to take full responsibility for accepting such advise he’s in charge and this simply isn’t good enough for the love of god chansiri get rid of these advisors employ and chief executive and a director of football to be in the club daily running it for you and advising you on how to invest into this club you have lost the fan base and need to act quickly not one person buys into this paxo snake and wether he’s involved in this or not it’s just poison act now and be a leader not all leaders need full control and their say on everything 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minesapint Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: QUESTION - If you were a player who'd supported Sheffield Wednesday all your life would you sign for us right now? I'll go first - NO - I would not I'd be away as fast as possible to the first decent offer from any other decent club Celtic? I'd be on the train right now Although he and his family are fans his career is a different matter. He will remain a Wednesday fan but ply his trade wherever it takes him. This whole issue just brings the problems within the club to a head. No forward thinking, and relegation staring us in the face. For a supposed businessman the whole situation is incredible. The chances of him realising any sort of return on his investment reduces daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Who could blame him really? & why worry? we have 'Hutch' & 'Westy'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minesapint Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Marc_Degryse said: If he goes he goes, so long as we get some money for him and hopefully a sell on fee. Priorities are not really midfield/CB atm, use the cash to buy a CF. Looked like he had some potential but by the same stroke could be yet another failed academy product in a year or two's time, so won't lose any sleep over this. If he signs a pre contract we won’t get a penny . If he had been offered a reasonable contract 3 weeks ago the odds are he would have signed and then be worth a few quid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Minesapint said: Although he and his family are fans his career is a different matter. He will remain a Wednesday fan but ply his trade wherever it takes him. This whole issue just brings the problems within the club to a head. No forward thinking, and relegation staring us in the face. For a supposed businessman the whole situation is incredible. The chances of him realising any sort of return on his investment reduces daily. I really do question DC’s business credentials. To let the same happen to Shaw after what we went through with Hirst is staggering incompetence of the highest order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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