areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, Jim said: The job is a short term one as things stand. How the rest of the season goes will dictate what the job will be in the future. If we get relegated, Paul Cook would be a pretty handy manager to have in League One though, wouldn't he? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Just now, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: If we get relegated, Paul Cook would be a pretty handy manager to have in League One though, wouldn't he? He would indeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I think we have to consider DC’s position here, whether or not he’s planning to sell. First and foremost we have to maintain our championship status, then we can reassess. It’s odd, so many on here are quick to point out, it’s all about staying up, nothing else matters at the moment. We can see that in our recruitment, and the contract situation, so why do we think the managerial situation would be any different? If Cook was confident in his own ability, he would have taken the opportunity to prove to DC, that he is the right man for the job. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Clubs sacking record? We held on to Jos and Monk for too long. If the reason he has turned us down is the length of the contract then he has gone down in my estimation. Should back himself to do well and earn a longer contract rather than want the gravy train to turn up first. Nah. Put yourselves in Cook’s shoes. A 4 month contract is absolutely ridiculous. He will value himself more than that - especially while it’s still relatively early days in his management career. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, striker said: Can't recruit players he wants, doesn't even have time to work with the players he'd inherit due to fixtures. Would be a hiding to nothing, putting your reputation on the line, not to mention relocating for a short term job, working for someone who seemingly doesn't value you You're not putting your reputation on the line for all the reasons you've mentioned above. Get it right, you're a genius, get it wrong then your hands were tied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: It’s not a vote of confidence is it. “Have it for 4 months if you want it”. The only explanation is that we might think there will be more options in the summer with travel restrictions removed It could be that the takeover will be completed by the end of the season and the new owners don't want to start off saddled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Nah. Put yourselves in Cook’s shoes. A 4 month contract is absolutely ridiculous. He will value himself more than that - especially while it’s still relatively early days in his management career. Fair enough, 6 months out of work and counting having managed 1 club at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, gurujuan said: I think we have to consider DC’s position here, whether or not he’s planning to sell. First and foremost we have to maintain our championship status, then we can reassess. It’s odd, so many on here are quick to point out, it’s all about staying up, nothing else matters at the moment. We can see that in our recruitment, and the contract situation, so why do we think the managerial situation would be any different? If Cook was confident in his own ability, he would have taken the opportunity to prove to DC, that he is the right man for the job. If he's confident in his own ability, he could always back himself to land a longer contract at a club which isn't beset by off-field issues as mammoth as ours, of course. It could be interpreted as an insulting offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hitcat said: You're not putting your reputation on the line for all the reasons you've mentioned above. Get it right, you're a genius, get it wrong then your hands were tied. Get it wrong and it puts other potential clubs off. Cook has a good reputation. He’s not daft. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, WAWAWUTO17 said: He could lose all the remaining games. Ok mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Get it wrong and it puts other potential clubs off. Cook has a good reputation. He’s not daft. His reputation isn't getting him very far, Cardiff looked straight past him, might end up waiting for a chance that doesn't come at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Must be a cheapo offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: It could be that the takeover will be completed by the end of the season and the new owners don't want to start off saddled? Not really logical. If you’re going to spend tens of millions buying a business. You’re not worried about terminating contracts of employees you don’t want. If you’re DC, you could care less about decisions that the next owner has to make If you’re DC you should want to do everything possible to protect the value of the asset you’re trying to sell. If that means offering the best candidate a long term deal to get him to come and keep you as a championship team then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Lawrie’s Left Peg said: Not really logical. If you’re going to spend tens of millions buying a business. You’re not worried about terminating contracts of employees you don’t want. If you’re DC, you could care less about decisions that the next owner has to make If you’re DC you should want to do everything possible to protect the value of the asset you’re trying to sell. If that means offering the best candidate a long term deal to get him to come and keep you as a championship team then so be it. Maybe. It was just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 49 minutes ago, striker said: Not as simple as that. We've wasted the transfer window, not that Chansiri would relinquish control and fixture wise have no time to work with the players on the training ground to make any sort of material impact. It's like being offered a parcel courier job on a trial, to be extended if you hit your targets, but then being provided with a bike, with a flat tyre. Why interview for the job in the first place then if you don't think you can do it? Its not as if it is any secret what state we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: His reputation isn't getting him very far, Cardiff looked straight past him, might end up waiting for a chance that doesn't come at this level. Cardiff offered him the job, if reports are to be believed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: If he's confident in his own ability, he could always back himself to land a longer contract at a club which isn't beset by off-field issues as mammoth as ours, of course. It could be interpreted as an insulting offer. That may be the case, but any jobs that come up beyond the end of January, are usually firefighting jobs anyway Had he taken the job with us, and been successful, he presumably would have more choices. I don’t know, it’s his call after all, but I can understand why that is the offer that is on the table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Cardiff offered him the job, if reports are to be believed. Yep.................4 months same as us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, gurujuan said: That may be the case, but any jobs that come up beyond the end of January, are usually firefighting jobs anyway Had he taken the job with us, and been successful, he presumably would have more choices. I don’t know, it’s his call after all, but I can understand why that is the offer that is on the table I'll be honest, I can't. If the worst happens and we are in League One next season, you know who'd be great to have at the helm? Paul Cook. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Hookowl said: Yep.................4 months same as us Right. So they didn't 'look straight past him', then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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