Guest Therealrealist Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: YEY!! We got a 'another stick to beat the club with' post!!! I'm nearly at a full house of cliches Im waiting on 'hes just had bad advice'..and 'he just needs to get a CEO in to run the club' for a full house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksowl Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, DJMortimer said: If the league's financial regulations allow for a maximum deficit of £39m over a rolling three year period and the previous financial year you lost £20m, then it's probably not a good idea to increase your spending by something like 80%, as we did. Nor would it be sensible to outlay circa £10m on a player in a position where you already have six experienced options, even as other areas of the squad are in much greater need of reinforcement. It would also be sensible to ensure that if you came up with a fiddle scheme to circumvent operate within these rules that you make damned sure you do it promptly and correctly so as not to endanger the future chances of the club to exist at it's current standard. One also has to wonder about a chairman who complains about negative football before appointing one of the most well known exponents of it possible... and then getting rid of him a few weeks later, presumably at considerable expense. Either no particular hindsight is necessary to discern the potential drawbacks of such actions or I'm far more perceptive than I realised. Agenda again had we been promoted this would not be an issue. Do not remember you being a critic when we were in the play offs. Hind sight bear boy sorry or girl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mcguigan Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, SWFC Trust said: Good points, thank you. It might be a bit of sloppy wording on my part to call it a new approach. I know that we've had the Steering Group, Fans Forums and other opportunities to meet the chairman in recent years. Perhaps new opportunity would be a better way to describe it. It needs points three and four to succeed (structure and fans groups speaking with a unified voice). Get that right then of course it needs to club to fully engage with it as well. We are happy that the club intends to do so - but of course the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. I saw that fan engagement index. Hopefully, a successful process will help push SWFC up the table. Which is all a long way of me saying - it's a beginning. We will do our best to make it work. It needs the owner to engage with it, not the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 hours ago, @owlstalk said: I'm genuinely shocked how people are getting excited or calling it new it's not It's just putting back in place the stuff that Chansiri tore up and threw in the bn And he will be all ready to tear this.... Nothing... Up again. Thanks to the trust for posting on here too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes or die Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 25 minutes ago, Bucksowl said: Sorry no come from Sheffield supported them all my life now retired now live in Buckingham close to MKowl Fair play pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFC Trust Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Mcguigan said: It needs the owner to engage with it, not the club. Yes, more sloppy wording. The owner and the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksowl Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Stripes or die said: Fair play pal Spent a life and career sorting out poo in blue chip companies all I see here is frustration (understandable) but this sis not how you resolve problems) winds me up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFC Trust Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: The statement from the club earlier in the week was quite interesting. They were looking to source as many groups as possible including the Owls Trust, Wise Old Owls, Disability Owls and all the various age groups Under 20's to over 80's et al. The invites will be to representatives of groups to meet and discuss. It is a tried and trusted tactic to bury business under a mountain of documentation and a cacophony of idle chatter the result of which = 0. IMO Like ! One of the reasons for our points about it needing a structure and for fans groups to speak with a united voice. I know that fans will disagree on certain things, but the more we can work together, the more chance of this succeeding. We'll do our best to make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksowl Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, SWFC Trust said: One of the reasons for our points about it needing a structure and for fans groups to speak with a united voice. I know that fans will disagree on certain things, but the more we can work together, the more chance of this succeeding. We'll do our best to make it work. Then agree a process do not dictate one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Could I ask what experience these Trust lads have of running a football club. Because that’s what we need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksowl Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, vulva said: Could I ask what experience these Trust lads have of running a football club. Because that’s what we need. 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, SWFC Trust said: Good points, thank you. It might be a bit of sloppy wording on my part to call it a new approach. I know that we've had the Steering Group, Fans Forums and other opportunities to meet the chairman in recent years. Perhaps new opportunity would be a better way to describe it. It needs points three and four to succeed (structure and fans groups speaking with a unified voice). Get that right then of course it needs to club to fully engage with it as well. We are happy that the club intends to do so - but of course the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. I saw that fan engagement index. Hopefully, a successful process will help push SWFC up the table. Which is all a long way of me saying - it's a beginning. We will do our best to make it work. Cheers for the reply. As you say, points three and four of your earlier post are going to be key if this is going to be anything more than a re-run of previous forums / Steering Groups etc. Hopefully the opportunity for fans groups to speak on behalf of their members and co-ordinate in advance with a clear, limited and focussed agenda might result in something a bit more productive than we've witnessed in the past. I'd be tempted to try to limit each meeting to just two or three key topics in order to avoid the free-for-all that the Steering Group Meetings appeared to be. Edited January 22, 2021 by areNOTwhatTHEYseem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFC Trust Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, Bucksowl said: Then agree a process do not dictate one We're working on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFC Trust Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Cheers for the reply. As you say, points three and four of your earlier post are going to be key if this is going to be anything more than a re-run of previous forums / Stereing Groups etc. Hopefully the opportunity for fans groups to speak on behalf of their members and co-ordinate in advance with a clear, limited and focussed agenda might result in something a bit more productive than we've witnessed in the past. I'd be tempted to try to limit each meeting to just two or three key topics in order to avoid the free-for-all that the Steering Group Meetings appeared to be. That's a great point, thank you. Will feed that back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksowl Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, SWFC Trust said: We're working on that. Then I hope your language with the club differs with the cub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksowl Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Bucksowl said: Then I hope your language with the club differs with the cub sorry on line posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bucksowl said: Then I hope your language with the club differs with the cub What do you care? You've already made your mind up that we should be on our knees doffing our caps to the chairman Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambo89 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 hours ago, @owlstalk said: I'm genuinely shocked how people are getting excited or calling it new it's not It's just putting back in place the stuff that Chansiri tore up and threw in the bn Is owlstalk acknowledged as I've if the supporters groups or is it not a supporters group and just a message board? If the latter, then what does it take to become a group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksowl Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: What do you care? You've already made your mind up that we should be on our knees doffing our caps to the chairman What planet are you on, or are you going tom delete this one sorry but conflict resolution was my role for 30+ years (I was a trouble shooter) I know how to get to a resolution you know how to stire enjoy your role. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 25 minutes ago, SWFC Trust said: One of the reasons for our points about it needing a structure and for fans groups to speak with a united voice. I know that fans will disagree on certain things, but the more we can work together, the more chance of this succeeding. We'll do our best to make it work. And good on you. The way to combat this tactic and I do believe it to be a tactic, maybe to call for a pre meeting caucus even if it means a meeting open to all interested parties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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