fpowl 2,796 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Hookowl said: Not really, he's only managed to play 5 games this season so that's all I could use for his recent form. I mean if your trying to make yourself look like a bit of a muppet you’ve smashed it out of park sam Hutchinson disciplinary record is awful hes had two reds and one yellow in 5 games yes but his last sending off was in 2017 im going on recent form not his career and it’s all I can go on no it’s all you can go if it fits an inept argument but your trying to make it for your opinion plus Sam Hutchinson is a player that will pick up bookings it’s his game and comes with his job role out of interest how many bookings has our other midfielders had this season Ive not checked but Barry Bannan Shaw Joey and Luongo games and cards please I bet there’s 10 cards minimum between that lot what you should be saying which is more to the point I wish would have signed somebody younger to take drive the club forward and replace the hole Sam Hutchinson left behind in the summer but we didn’t since Sam Hutchinson was taken out of the first team or left our club has gone backwards and if bringing him back stabilises that in the short it’s a piece of business the club should and fans should be swilling their pride and recognising that Sam Hutchinson has a skill set that improves this team Regardless of the fact we failed to replace him he’s available for free the myths of hes a bad egg- no evidence the myth he always injured - available a lot more than not and has been consistently over last 3 seasons always gets sent off 2 now since 2017 let’s look at what results have been like with or with out Sam Hutchinson in our team - there’s your answer 3 Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteOwl91 3,976 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, parajack said: Thats where you coach them to..(like Barnsley) theres nothing wrong with looking for & signing the types of players you describe Barnsley do it season after season but SWFC are incapable of doing the same?.... Whose living on cloud cuckoo land? The same Barnsley who apparently do it season in, season out, but have been relegated twice in 7 seasons? They finished 21st last season only staying up because Wigan went into administration? Oh but because they're at the massive heights of 11th this season, so due to this one off theyre a shining example to the rest of the footballing world. Their highest league position in the last 20 years is 14th in the Championship ffs, where they lost Winnall and Hourihane for absolute peanuts (yeah well run that was) Link to post Share on other sites
parajack 1,583 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, WhiteOwl91 said: You're trotting out the same old story about Hutcinson being a problem (which has also been done to death) so don't expect people to counter that by saying they believe Jos and Monk were a problem!!! Ok, name me a better option we have right now? For a threadbare squad, who needs another option, who's out there that we can sign for free thats an improvement on him? There will be multiple options available,and talks should be ongoing about bringing in loans as we speak(as a minimum) to fill a variety of positions at S6....Club have a recruiting team & should have identified and made bids on potential targets If they dont with 2,sometimes 3 matchs a week to play shortly moving forward,than it will tell us all we need to know....as will in my view a return of a player released by us last season,(who didnt get a Championship 'gig' according to those on here,because he preferred Cyprus) yet played little part in the side over there.... Link to post Share on other sites
geriatricowl 828 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 18 hours ago, HullOwlPhil said: What our really average squad needs is another really average player. Hutchinson a really average player. Really? You are clearly a WUM Link to post Share on other sites
Hookowl 11,793 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, fpowl said: I mean if your trying to make yourself look like a bit of a muppet you’ve smashed it out of park yes but his last sending off was in 2017 I only got as far as that part.................the form I was referring to included his sending off in 2021. Link to post Share on other sites
parajack 1,583 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, fpowl said: I mean if your trying to make yourself look like a bit of a muppet you’ve smashed it out of park sam Hutchinson disciplinary record is awful hes had two reds and one yellow in 5 games yes but his last sending off was in 2017 im going on recent form not his career and it’s all I can go on no it’s all you can go if it fits an inept argument but your trying to make it for your opinion plus Sam Hutchinson is a player that will pick up bookings it’s his game and comes with his job role out of interest how many bookings has our other midfielders had this season Ive not checked but Barry Bannan Shaw Joey and Luongo games and cards please I bet there’s 10 cards minimum between that lot what you should be saying which is more to the point I wish would have signed somebody younger to take drive the club forward and replace the hole Sam Hutchinson left behind in the summer but we didn’t since Sam Hutchinson was taken out of the first team or left our club has gone backwards and if bringing him back stabilises that in the short it’s a piece of business the club should and fans should be swilling their pride and recognising that Sam Hutchinson has a skill set that improves this team Regardless of the fact we failed to replace him he’s available for free the myths of hes a bad egg- no evidence the myth he always injured - available a lot more than not and has been consistently over last 3 seasons always gets sent off 2 now since 2017 let’s look at what results have been like with or with out Sam Hutchinson in our team - there’s your answer I doubt he would allegedly last 2 weeks....before being injured playing Sat/Tues. in the cold..& would he be able to train in between?.... Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteOwl91 3,976 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, parajack said: There will be multiple options available,and talks should be ongoing about bringing in loans as we speak(as a minimum) to fill a variety of positions at S6....Club have a recruiting team & should have identified and made bids on potential targets If they dont with 2,sometimes 3 matchs a week to play shortly moving forward,than it will tell us all we need to know....as will in my view a return of a player released by us last season,(who didnt get a Championship 'gig' according to those on here,because he preferred Cyprus) yet played little part in the side over there.... Talking of things being done to death, the guy missed 1 game due to suspension, then randomly on the bench for 1 game, while then Pulis speaks about him in the press, he mysteriously disappears from the squads and rumours swirl about him rejoining us. And multiple options, again who thats better? Im sure if the recruitment team thought they had one, theyd do it! Link to post Share on other sites
parajack 1,583 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, geriatricowl said: Hutchinson a really average player. Really? You are clearly a WUM He is no Peter Swan.... Link to post Share on other sites
Dunkstar 1,236 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Minesapint said: Quote Yet here we are talking as though he is the saviour. That's the thing though. I don't see anyone talking as though he's the saviour (although Monk and Jos clearly thought he was a very naughty boy) Just someone who can come in and hopefully do a short term job the squad needs. Edited January 22 by Dunkstar 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Big Jack 2,121 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The reason I believe Sam fell out with Jos and Monk is because he had coaching ideas he voiced, which made them felt undermined. Other managers welcome opinion others can't handle it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
parajack 1,583 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, WhiteOwl91 said: The same Barnsley who apparently do it season in, season out, but have been relegated twice in 7 seasons? They finished 21st last season only staying up because Wigan went into administration? Oh but because they're at the massive heights of 11th this season, so due to this one off theyre a shining example to the rest of the footballing world. Their highest league position in the last 20 years is 14th in the Championship ffs, where they lost Winnall and Hourihane for absolute peanuts (yeah well run that was) We know they have been relegated,they sell on too many players for my liking,but that doesnt detract from the fact that they keep on finding them does it? alllows their Club to keep a sound financial footing.Some Clubs,arguable like Barnsley & Rotherham,may always struggle to maintain Championship status,but be too good for League 1....hence promotion/relegation I dont want SWFC to be added to that list Link to post Share on other sites
York_Owl 1,891 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, parajack said: I doubt he would allegedly last 2 weeks....before being injured playing Sat/Tues. in the cold..& would he be able to train in between?.... Just don't play him Sat/Tues. Play him Sat/Sat so he has some recovery time in between games. Link to post Share on other sites
fpowl 2,796 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, parajack said: I doubt he would allegedly last 2 weeks....before being injured playing Sat/Tues. in the cold..& would he be able to train in between?.... Maybe not he didn’t train too much under Carlos and performed well maybe he plays 2 in 3 or 1 in two in squad rotation plenty do that snd it’s going to be needed anyway my point stands Hutchinson brings a quality we are Lacking a bite we need he improves our team 3 Link to post Share on other sites
parajack 1,583 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, York_Owl said: Just don't play him Sat/Tues. Play him Sat/Sat so he has some recovery time in between games. Yes and give him the rest of the week off?? why not...... Link to post Share on other sites
bladeshater 6,556 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The lad from man city- hunt- Shaw- pelapussy- luongo- brown-bannan are we really desperate for another center mid Link to post Share on other sites
York_Owl 1,891 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, parajack said: Yes and give him the rest of the week off?? why not...... Worked for Paul McGrath. Link to post Share on other sites
fpowl 2,796 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, bladeshater said: The lad from man city- hunt- Shaw- pelapussy- luongo- brown-bannan are we really desperate for another center mid Non of those play like Sam Hutchinson it’s like comparing Defoe to Andy Peter crouch They play a different role even though sane position Link to post Share on other sites
Big Jack 2,121 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, fpowl said: Non of those play like Sam Hutchinson it’s like comparing Defoe to Andy Peter crouch They play a different role even though sane position Absolutely and he can play centre back, which seems to have been cursed with injuries. Link to post Share on other sites
Stu 112 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, Big Jack said: The reason I believe Sam fell out with Jos and Monk is because he had coaching ideas he voiced, which made them felt undermined. Other managers welcome opinion others can't handle Carlos and Bruce both played him as often as they could, both experienced man managers and probably dealt with experienced players like Sam before, Jos just wanted no voices in the dressing room undermining him, and Monk well he was just plain and simple tw@ 3 Link to post Share on other sites
fpowl 2,796 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) Was it Steve Watson we had quality player even at end of his career but his knees was that shot he never trained with us did the business when it mattered though Edited January 22 by fpowl 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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