Athelwulf 4,212 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 This morning, Portuguese newspaper O Jogo featured on their front page a big interview with Braga president Antonio Salvador, who claimed he’d like to renew Carlos Carvalhal’s contract at the club. So as the manager also had a press conference scheduled for today, he was obviously asked about the chances of signing a new deal for the arsenalistas. To explain the situation and dodge a little from the question, Carvalhal used his time at Sheffield Wednesday as an example, recalling the reasons why he first stayed and then left the Owls. “I recall my time at Sheffield Wednesday. I signed for a year and at the end of that season we had gone to the playoff final,” said Carvalhal (via Mais Futebol). “I had the chance to leave for the Premier League, but I always have three important vectors to decide: the satisfaction of the president and the administration; that players like my job and are motivated; the associative mass be happy. If these three vectors converge, it’s not money or anything else that moves me.” “I had the chance to go to the Premier League this first year and the second, and I didn’t leave because of that. I only left because, at a certain point, in a club where I was almost idolised, I had eight or nine players injured at the same time, and then I added five or six less good results. I ended up leaving, and it was not on my own initiative. Of those three vectors, perhaps one was no longer present, and I ended up going into my life. Curiously, I ended up going to the Premier League at that time, two days later I signed for Swansea.” Carlos Carvalhal joined Sheffield Wednesday in the summer of 2015 and only exited the club in December 2017. He left a record of 56 wins in 131 games for the club. His campaigns, however, weren’t enough to take the Owls to the Premier League. Following his departure from Hillsborough, Carvalhal managed Swansea City, Rio Ave and now Braga. He’s currently fighting for a place in Europe with the Portuguese side, and his campaign has been enough to make the club pretty satisfied. by Taboola http://sportwitness.co.uk/i-almost-idolised-manager-explains-reasons-sheffield-wednesday-exit/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Athelwulf 4,212 Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, Athelwulf said: http://sportwitness.co.uk/i-almost-idolised-manager-explains-reasons-sheffield-wednesday-exit/ https://maisfutebol.iol.pt/carlos-carvalhal/antonio-salvador/sp-braga-carvalhal-recorda-sheffield-wednesday-para-falar-do-futuro Link to post Share on other sites
mildatheart67 1,035 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 56 wins in 131 Pah flash in a pan stuff. Bit like Francis the managers who brought us closest to " success" are the ones a section of our fans hold bitterest memories of. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Blue and white 12,244 Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 His 1st season was some of the best football I've seen us play in a long long time, it went South in his 2nd season despite finishing 4th and sadly it spiraled from there. I don't believe for one minute it was entirely his fault for our decline, nor was it Monks or Pulis, we all know where the blame lays with that. 29 Link to post Share on other sites
hirstysfags 709 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 "Almost" isn't "Actually" 2 Link to post Share on other sites
bobness 10,866 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 From the age of 6 Carlos was almost my idol. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Athelwulf 4,212 Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 In MaisFutebol Carlos goes on to say - "A few days ago I saw a report that said that our departure was one of Sheffield Wednesday's biggest historical mistakes, since the club never met again. These are things that happen. Often coaches are not fired for their work, for their support, but for a more structural issue, ” he concluded. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FinnishOwl 727 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Carlos was a journeyman before he joined us and simply wore out his welcome. His "new manager" boost lasted for that one season when everything seemed to go to plan, too bad there never really was a plan B. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post @owlstalk 44,407 Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 Oh look - yet ANOTHER example of Carlos bigging hmself up He's not a football manager He's a salesman for the Carlos brand 14 5 Owlstalk Shop Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post airborne_rat_of_s6 5,606 Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 No mention of turbo negative tactics that saw us have 21% possession against Huddersfield when we could have easily wiped the floor with them over both legs. Ok making out he was great but he had a massive budget and we are still paying for his expensive flops. 11 Link to post Share on other sites
SallyCinnamon 23,969 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, Athelwulf said: In MaisFutebol Carlos goes on to say - "A few days ago I saw a report that said that our departure was one of Sheffield Wednesday's biggest historical mistakes, since the club never met again. These are things that happen. Often coaches are not fired for their work, for their support, but for a more structural issue, ” he concluded. I liked Carlos but no this is wrong. The biggest mistake was giving him a new contract after two successive play off failures. That was the biggest mistake. Along with still believing the same group of tired players could muster up a third promotion push. New manager and a fire sale was needed to stop the misery of the past 3 years. That’s DC’s fault. Edited January 21 by SallyCinnamon 6 Link to post Share on other sites
TrickyTrev 13,830 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Should’ve got rid after the playoff final. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
@owlstalk 44,407 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, TrickyTrev said: Should’ve got rid A WEEK BEFORE the playoff final. 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post bladeshater 6,073 Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 His attitude to the semi final against Huddersfield was discraceful 12 Link to post Share on other sites
tomhollywood 2,115 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Still can't believe he started Hutchinson instead of Lopez when Hutchinson had been out for 2 months. Also, we wore white shorts. WHITE SHORTS. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Markowski77 2,941 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I think after that first season he was idolised - everyone bought into it - and still that day out at Wembley sticks in my mind after the final whistle even though we lost, it was a sense of togetherness, which is no longer there We are desperate for a manager who can bring the fans together whether we will get one like that is another question 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites
matthefish2002 12,846 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 "it’s not money or anything else that moves me.” Why do football people always trot out that line when blatantly isn't true. 99% of people in every profession are. Link to post Share on other sites
hasthagotanycheese 3,031 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I almost fell off my Besiktas Morphocycyle when I read that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CircleSeven 1,815 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Yep. I agree with Carlos. It’s a nightmare when one of the three required vectors isn’t there. But, that’s how it is, if the associative mass aren’t happy what else can you do? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
DJMortimer 13,463 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 hours ago, mildatheart67 said: 56 wins in 131 Pah flash in a pan stuff. Bit like Francis the managers who brought us closest to " success" are the ones a section of our fans hold bitterest memories of. Oh dear. This is a bit of a social media 'aren't I just fabulous?' post. There simply is not widespread bitterness for Francis in particular (notwithstanding the owner of this site's mania about him). However, both of the managers you referred to did oversee the start of a period of decline; one of them still ongoing right now. Of course there were other factors at work, especially emanating from the boardroom, but each has to take at least some blame for what unfolded. No reason to be hypersensitive about it. I don't know about anyone else but I'm really bitter about Howard Wilkinson and Ron Atkinson. What on Earth did they think they were they doing? 4 Link to post Share on other sites
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