Steve Down South Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 We’re in deep trouble. It’s not really a reflection of results over the last couple of days, more our own performances over the first half of the season, our inability (so far) to strengthen a poor squad and the seeming lethargy at the top of the club when it comes to appointing a manager. We were very fortunate to win our last 2 league games, with no real improvement on Pulis. Based purely on what I’ve seen so far, we deserve to be in the bottom 3 and I think we’ll struggle to get out - simply not good enough. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Steve Down South said: We’re in deep trouble. It’s not really a reflection of results over the last couple of days, more our own performances over the first half of the season, our inability (so far) to strengthen a poor squad and the seeming lethargy at the top of the club when it comes to appointing a manager. We were very fortunate to win our last 2 league games, with no real improvement on Pulis. Based purely on what I’ve seen so far, we deserve to be in the bottom 3 and I think we’ll struggle to get out - simply not good enough. we are only in the bottom 3 coz of the points deduction so there 4 teams who are playing worse than us which gives us some hope . ......... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Therealrealist said: We are goin down this season..get used to it I still don’t think we will get relegated. If you discount the 6 point reduction, our results in the first half of the season would put us out of the bottom 3 and you have to hope we will have a better second half of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, Steve Down South said: We’re in deep trouble. It’s not really a reflection of results over the last couple of days, more our own performances over the first half of the season, our inability (so far) to strengthen a poor squad and the seeming lethargy at the top of the club when it comes to appointing a manager. We were very fortunate to win our last 2 league games, with no real improvement on Pulis. Based purely on what I’ve seen so far, we deserve to be in the bottom 3 and I think we’ll struggle to get out - simply not good enough. But we're only in the bottom 3 because of the points deduction though. As bad as we've been our goal difference and points gained makes us currently the 5th worst side in the league a point behind Coventry and Birmingham. Its a long way from being over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 We are going up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, RUMBELOWS91 said: Really not looking good. Millwall and QPR winning. Brum drawing. Forest lost but I expect them to get out of trouble. We're going to need close to, if not more than, 50 points. We shouldn't be reliant on other teams results. 50 points is the benchmark for safety 99.9% of the time. We are where we are through sheer incompetence and nothing more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 FFS take a chill pill and hit the reset button just before Easter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamakua Pueo Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 The most hopeful sign that Chansiri has turned a corner in his maturity as an owner would be if the window ended with a free or two added, perhaps a couple of soon-to-be-out-of-contract players offloaded, with Thompson confirmed as head coach for the remainder of the season. No practical difference between 21st and 7th. The club will never get ahead of P&S limits by spending more than income in order to calm the nerves of the supporters. We are probably about the 19th or 20th best side in the League. The probability is that a pat hand is enough to stay up. If not, relegation isn’t the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Yes, results really haven't gone our way since we moved out of the relegation zone. It's as if it served as a wake-up call to all the teams around us to get their act together, and for the most part, they did. At least Birmingham and Coventry slipped up this week, and Rotherham only came away with a point against Stoke despite coming from behind to twice take the lead. More positively, the break came at a good time with the likes of Luongo, Dunkley, Borner, and Windass (haven't heard any more about him leaving lately) all likely to be available again. Several players needed the rest too since Pulis was so reluctant to rotate. We have Green as well to add some competition on the wings and he's another player who can do a job up front if necessary. I get the feeling Marriott will always be Rhodes v2.0 in terms of impact, but I hope he can at least manage a single goal, and that that goal happens to be a match-winner. I think this squad is good enough to stay up - and I'm sure there are plenty of other sets of fans who are less than impressed with their own teams' squads right now - but it was obvious since before the season started that Wednesday would face a constant struggle for goals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, torryowl said: we are only in the bottom 3 coz of the points deduction so there 4 teams who are playing worse than us which gives us some hope . ......... 33 minutes ago, Nut said: But we're only in the bottom 3 because of the points deduction though. As bad as we've been our goal difference and points gained makes us currently the 5th worst side in the league a point behind Coventry and Birmingham. Its a long way from being over. You’re both right of course, and the table doesn’t (usually) lie, but I’ve not seen 3 worse teams this season. I would rank Wycombe as the worst side I’ve seen, but of course they beat us, as did Rotherham and Forest. I know we beat Derby, but could easily have been on the other end of that result. I agree it’s a long way from over, but it’s been so long since I saw a convincing Wednesday performance that I’m really doubting our ability to get out of this mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, Steve Down South said: but it’s been so long since I saw a convincing Wednesday performance that I’m really doubting our ability to get out of this mess. It looks worse cos there is no fans to tut with....tutting usually helps, once crowds are back in Feb, some massive tutting will resume and we will fly up the table. May even make the play offs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von shabba Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, torryowl said: we are only in the bottom 3 coz of the points deduction so there 4 teams who are playing worse than us which gives us some hope . ......... Love the optimism mate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von shabba Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Blue and white said: We shouldn't be reliant on other teams results. 50 points is the benchmark for safety 99.9% of the time. We are where we are through sheer incompetence and nothing more. This................. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 A long way to go but I would be surprised if this isn't the bottom three in May. I just can't see who is going to fully drop into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: It looks worse cos there is no fans to tut with....tutting usually helps, once crowds are back in Feb, some massive tutting will resume and we will fly up the table. May even make the play offs. Bring back the cushions, a few of those thrown onto the pitch might help as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSandersonOWL Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 hours ago, WalthamOwl said: We simply have to get the new manager in ASAP and allow him to strengthen the squad. We desperately need a couple of strikers still to give ourselves any chance of staying up imo. Less than 2 weeks until the transfer window closes. Team play better without a manager ! We are already strengthening the squad without a manager ! DC does not appoint managers, they are coaches ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Whitechapel Owl said: I wouldn't count Derby out of it, a points deduction could be on the cards for them. Yes, but remember it's Wayne Rooney's Derby... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 hours ago, Blue and white said: We shouldn't be reliant on other teams results. 50 points is the benchmark for safety 99.9% of the time. We are where we are through sheer incompetence and nothing more. This ^ it’s not really groundbreaking that we need to get to 50 points. We were always going to need a stronger second half to the season to meet that target and stay up. Hence the need to improve the squad this month as Pulis and everyone on here have been saying. The championship is the most erratic league around, relying on having 3 teams like the pigs who lose every time they play is not going to happen. We lost at home to Luton and said it was an awful result. But we beat Derby. Bournemouth have just lost at home to Luton and lost to Derby. Wycombe will probably beat Norwich and then lose to Birmingham. That’s the championship 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 10 hours ago, Ray Von shabba said: Love the optimism mate.... Hopeful more than optimistic....I think it will go right to the end and the deduction may well cost us . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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