Ellis Rimmer 6,283 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Awful manager Nearly got the future PL champions relegated No thanks 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Orlando_Trustful 8,685 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I would be delighted with him, but with DC this won't happen. There's no way Pearson would be able to work with him. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie_W 1,002 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 He won’t take it or even be offered it. Let’s stop going on about him. Link to post Share on other sites
shezzas left peg 2,848 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 He won't take it. Pearson will want too much control of his own destiny. Dc won't allow that, so he'll turn it down just like every other real manager. Link to post Share on other sites
jacko1992 654 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Not a chance. They'd be feyting before the interview is over. Link to post Share on other sites
Quist 2,766 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I do really wonder if individuals actually think about some of suggestions, or actually look at some of records and traits of person. He has had some really odd moments with Chairman and Journalists and he looked as if ruled by moon. Firstly he would simply not get on with Dc and his old advisor that is without doubt. Secondly he is record is good when he has Shakespeare as his assistant. Without him it is diabolical. In the summer Shakespeare was recruited to be Aston Villa assistant (he is life long Villa fan) because it was thought Terry was leaving to manage elsewhere. Since he has joined up with Smith Villa have improved enormously and you can not see him joining Pearson. Now why on earth would anybody even consider recruiting Pearson on his own is beyond me. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Harrysgame 1,381 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 On 17/01/2021 at 15:33, matthefish2002 said: Nigel Pearson working with Chansiri will be like oil and water. Hasn't Pearson got history with Thai ownership? Sure DC will have asked them about him already. Link to post Share on other sites
sonofbert2 31,552 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 @Grandad has been pegging again..... Link to post Share on other sites
@owlstalk 44,410 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 It's a NO from me 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to post Share on other sites
Hornsby 325 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 16 hours ago, Harrysgame said: Hasn't Pearson got history with Thai ownership? Sure DC will have asked them about him already. I think it may be his son's Thai tour that's the trouble. Link to post Share on other sites
Tommo_ 4,695 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 "don't let the door hit you in the head on the way out" Link to post Share on other sites
Harrysgame 1,381 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 15 minutes ago, Hornsby said: I think it may be his son's Thai tour that's the trouble. Forgot about that one. That will be a no then. Link to post Share on other sites
mcmigo 5,986 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Car crash at Derby, a disaster in Belgium and lasted 4 months at Watford. His managerial career is really on the slide. I think the desire to have an old school hard man as manager is misplaced. The game has changed a lot just like most workplaces. Having someone yell and act the hard man isnt going to make me work any harder, its just going to make me think they are bad managers. if a coach or manager gets me on the training pitch properly, observes and helps improve me as a player, thats what counts. We really need a young ish coach, who is happy in a tracksuit, no ego, not someone who is going to rock the boat or try to be a dominant figure at the club. Just work honestly and with humility at improving the players and the squad and getting good results. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Elderly Owl 524 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 17/01/2021 at 14:50, Roy Of The Roasters said: I'd love it, I really would. But it's not going to happen. It's increasingly clear that the problem is the owner, not the manager. Anyone who comes in is going to have to operate within the existing, dysfunctional system where DC, his family and his advisors call the shots. Their input will be limited and their opinions at best disregarded and at worst seen as a sign of treachery. Pearson would be a fantastic choice if given a free hand to get on and do the job. But he won't. And for that reason alone he'll avoid us. And in the unlikely event he did agree to take the job on, he would struggle for the reasons outlined above, just like his predecessors. And yet many fans would still blame him....... Lets be honest. In managerial terms, we're a career killer. Every manager knows you have three avenues to manage. Your employer(s), your staff, and your customers. Anyone who thinks managers are employed to do what they’re told by ANY of the those three routes is delusional. An owner must accept that the manager is paid to have authority and is responsible for, implementing his ( her) decisions. The customers cannot and should not seek to manage (heresy I know) as at the end of the day they either buy the end product or not. Equally, the staff cannot dictate policy. It’s best if all three work in harmony of course. The issue at Sheffield Wednesday is that we have not yet chosen the person to weld all three parts together. It is not solely the fault of the Chairman. A better manager would have solved the problem. If Ivic doesn’t fancy the challenge, then he’s not the man for the job. If Pulis couldn’t manage the problem it’s best he went. I think we should backtrack and get Paul Cook- if he’s strong enough, because standing up and being counted is what leadership and management is all about! You will tell me ( as will 99% of people on this site) that this is all Mr Chansiri’s fault. I absolutely disagree. The Chairman needs a good Team Manager who will shout his corner ( like Steve Bruce did), who is respected, and who is trusted. I can’t see Jose or Jurgen being told what they can and can’t have by Paixo! We need someone who will grab the job by the scruff of the neck and not a yes man! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Nero 6,175 Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Elderly Owl said: Every manager knows you have three avenues to manage. Your employer(s), your staff, and your customers. Anyone who thinks managers are employed to do what they’re told by ANY of the those three routes is delusional. An owner must accept that the manager is paid to have authority and is responsible for, implementing his ( her) decisions. The customers cannot and should not seek to manage (heresy I know) as at the end of the day they either buy the end product or not. Equally, the staff cannot dictate policy. It’s best if all three work in harmony of course. The issue at Sheffield Wednesday is that we have not yet chosen the person to weld all three parts together. It is not solely the fault of the Chairman. A better manager would have solved the problem. If Ivic doesn’t fancy the challenge, then he’s not the man for the job. If Pulis couldn’t manage the problem it’s best he went. I think we should backtrack and get Paul Cook- if he’s strong enough, because standing up and being counted is what leadership and management is all about! You will tell me ( as will 99% of people on this site) that this is all Mr Chansiri’s fault. I absolutely disagree. The Chairman needs a good Team Manager who will shout his corner ( like Steve Bruce did), who is respected, and who is trusted. I can’t see Jose or Jurgen being told what they can and can’t have by Paixo! We need someone who will grab the job by the scruff of the neck and not a yes man! Absolutely spot on. Add in a bit of luck and we have the nature of the beast. Link to post Share on other sites
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