meggoisgod Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, swinners said: Purely this. I, like everyone around, wanted a sugar daddy who would come in, pump in millions bankroll the club and take me on a ride. He's done just that. Talk about being careful what you wish for. I feel firmly bitten on my.bum! I think his philosophy is.. I have paid for it, it's mine and I don't care what anyone thinks. Exactly my point, we just need to sit back and watch it unfold...hopefully we'll be reyt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Jamie_W said: And they usually have people who know about football working around that Coach. A Director of Football etc. Not our set-up of a stubborn, ego-maniac chairman who is learning football as he goes who wants to run the show and is being taken advantage of by self-serving ‘advisors’ but doesn’t seem to want to admit it isn’t working. Flipping Urby for gods sake... Parked up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: I don’t think he’s very hands on Bruce saying today he's "going to do it his way", which suggests that he's not been entirely in control of things up until now. Yet people here saying he was going to walk because Chansiri was controlling certain things and he wouldn't work under those conditions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, Minton said: Bruce saying today he's "going to do it his way", which suggests that he's not been entirely in control of things up until now. Yet people here saying he was going to walk because Chansiri was controlling certain things and he wouldn't work under those conditions... I don’t think he was happy here with some of the ffp issues but whether he would’ve walked is another thing. As I posted earlier he was still able to make some decent signings. Thing is with Bruce he will say what he needs to in the press, but the impression I get in Newcastle is that Ashley isn’t really a day to day man. He has a business plan and parameters but it’s his directors like charnley who are the feet on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 He wouldn't walk. He would have got sacked by being a pain in the arse just like Pulis did. Money money money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Soul Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Grandad said: I think the majority knew he’d worked out the mess the club was in very quickly.. it was just (his) good fortune the Newcastle job was available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, brian joicey said: so, the trouble our club is in is due to alan biggs not breaking any news ??? look at the BIGGER picture WTF you on about. The club is a shambles we all know that, AB is not telling us anything new for gods sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Big Jack said: WTF you on about. The club is a shambles we all know that, AB is not telling us anything new for gods sake he's not telling YOU anything new - but it wasn't written for YOU it was for the wider public who it might be new to Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Jack said: WTF you on about. The club is a shambles we all know that, AB is not telling us anything new for gods sake This is it for me Correct me if I’m wrong, and I have no problem with the current crop of journalists by the way, but isn’t there job to unravel information we as fans are not privy to? Otherwise what’s the point in having a journalist, if all they do is tell us stuff we already know? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest timrud Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Looks like Biggs wanted Cook in so he had a juicy inside line. Now hes salty that won't be happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: This is it for me Correct me if I’m wrong, and I have no problem with the current crop of journalists by the way, but isn’t there job to unravel information we as fans are not privy to? Otherwise what’s the point in having a journalist, if all they do is tell us stuff we already know? No this isn’t their job. A local sports reporter fills columns, reports matches and provides content for their readers in line with what their editor asks of them. They might get a scoop every now and again. But they don’t have the resources or time to do a proper investigation into Sheffield Wednesday. Even if they did get pieces of information which fans want to know , revealing it could damage the relationship/trust between reporter and club which could risk their job and open them up to legal issues. A local on the beat reporter is not BBC Panorama or Dan Roan. Hope this clears it up for everyone who thinks Dom Howson who probably earns less than 25k a year should be writing double page spreads exposing the inner dealings of Sheffield Wednesday for the whole world. Not even national newspapers gain that kind of access. Edited January 16, 2021 by SallyCinnamon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: No this isn’t their job. A local sports reporter fills columns, reports matches and provides content for their readers in line with what their editor asks of them. They might get a scoop every now and again. But they don’t have the resources or time to do a proper investigation into Sheffield Wednesday. Even if they did get pieces of information which fans want to know , revealing damage the relationship/trust between reporter and club which could risk their job and open them up to legal issues. A local on the beat reporter is not BBC Panorama or Dan Roan. Hope this clears it up for everyone who thinks Dom Howson who probably earns less than 25k a year should be writing double page spreads exposing the inner dealings of Sheffield Wednesday for the whole world. Not even national newspapers gain that kind of access. The problem is, people can gain all that information themselves these days. Edited January 16, 2021 by FreshOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, FreshOwl said: The problem is, people can gain all that information themselves these days. Probably Yes which is why newspapers are dying. That’s not a Sheffield Star problem, it’s a problem up and down the country created by the huge amount of information you can consume on the Internet. It’s why the Sheffield Star now have to charge a subscription to read articles and have adverts all over their website to try and generate income. They do a good job the local reporters. We’d miss them if they weren’t there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: The problem is, people can gain all that information themselves these days. They get it from the local sports writers though Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: They get it from the local journos though And where do they get it from? Terry Henfleet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: Yes which is why newspapers are dying. That’s not a Sheffield Star problem, it’s a problem up and down the country created by the huge amount of information you can consume on the Internet. It’s why the Sheffield Star now have to charge a subscription to read articles and have adverts all over their website to try and generate income. They do a good job the local reporters. We’d miss them if they weren’t there. I’ll be brutally honest, I doubt many would notice. You’re right, journalism has changed. Any old person can get a match report themselves. Readers want to be enticed now more than ever It comes down to what value they’re offering. I could read @frastheowl’s match review on here and it would be far better than anything from Biggs or Howson I’d argue their job is largely based on getting a scoop, which is why Biggs has been so heavy on the Cook content 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Grandad said: Derbys sale should go through this week And theyre below us in the league Wouldn't bank on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: I’ll be brutally honest, I doubt many would notice. You’re right, journalism has changed. Any old person can get a match report themselves. Readers want to be enticed now more than ever It comes down to what value they’re offering. I could read @frastheowl’s match review on here and it would be far better than anything from Biggs or Howson I’d argue their job is largely based on getting a scoop, which is why Biggs has been so heavy on the Cook content People would notice, I follow them on social media and they often are useful for updates during matches or for passing on info. However I agree, I’d rather read what someone on here says post game then what Howson or Biggs write. But that’s the way sports writing and journalism has gone. Anyone can have an opinion and anyone has a platform to air their views. But they do still have readership. People do read what they say. And they are also on hand for press conferences, post match interviews etc which we all follow and listen/read about. Nowadays a lot of sports writing is click bait and being finger on the pulse when news breaks to engage with fans and get clicks on your articles. And of course the elderly still read newspapers! That readership isn’t dead yet. Edited January 16, 2021 by SallyCinnamon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 If their job is just to write columns, surely they’d get any person in with a hint of articulation These people are hired for their understanding, knowledge and contacts in the game. That’s how journalism works. You want the people working for you who have the contacts, so when you get that scoop your news company trumps above all others 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Also a big up to Howson, @Toadie @YesWeCrann who I think have provided some great content this past year during lockdown. Really improved the quality and variety of content in which is a very difficult industry right now. Made the effort to actively engage with supporters too. They’re an important cog in the wheel in my opinion. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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