Bruce was going to walk anyway

[Guest Grandad]

[Inspector Lestrade]

Coz he was.  AB coming up with the old sources close to routine... he means himself the sly old dog.

 

 

[vulva]

Now Alan’s mate hasn’t got the job, just sit back and watch the tone of his communications plummet. 
 

Always thought that the Biggs fawning support of Cook probably did Cook no favours. DC may have thought the manager and big noise in the press as best mates might not be a comfortable arrangement. 

[Bluesteel]

I think SB was quite frustrated in having to try and manage DC but if he was so clearly intent on leaving why has Alan Biggs only pulled this card out now? 
 

Under Bruce we made a fair few signings in Iorfa, Harris, Aaron’s, Lazaar Odubajo, which most people would have agreed addressed areas we were lacking. 

[Gob_Bluth]

6 minutes ago, vulva said:

Now Alan’s mate hasn’t got the job, just sit back and watch the tone of his communications plummet. 
 

Always thought that the Biggs fawning support of Cook probably did Cook no favours. DC may have thought the manager and big noise in the press as best mates might not be a comfortable arrangement. 

 

After his comments about Pulis and the press I make you spot on. 

 

He's doesn't seem to want someone who is chummy with the media 

Edited January 16, 2021 by Gob_Bluth

[brian joicey]

always believed this to be true  all along.

they're NOT allowed to manage ,they're just coaches/yes men. hence, no british managers any more.

 

[WalthamOwl]

I would love these past managers to come out and say what Chansiri is like. 

[McRightSide]

Cowley - wanted the job twice and didn’t get it

Cook - wanted the job twice and didn’t get it. Virtually begged for it.

Monk - got the job and was awful

Bruce - got the job and sold us down the river 

Biggs - desperate for Cook to get the job so he has an inside track 

 

These sound like extremely impartial opinions. 

I’m not defending Chansiri’s method of running the club, but just urging a little bit of perspective. Everyone has an agenda in football - and it’s usually a personal one 
 

[McRightSide]

3 minutes ago, Bluesteel said:

I think SB was quite frustrated in having to try and manage DC but if he was so clearly intent on leaving why has Alan Biggs only pulled this card out now? 
 

Under Bruce we made a fair few signings in Iorfa, Harris, Aaron’s, Lazaar Odubajo, which most people would have agreed addressed areas we were lacking. 

He was also able to extend Westwood and Palmer 

[WalthamOwl]

10 minutes ago, vulva said:

Now Alan’s mate hasn’t got the job, just sit back and watch the tone of his communications plummet. 
 

Always thought that the Biggs fawning support of Cook probably did Cook no favours. DC may have thought the manager and big noise in the press as best mates might not be a comfortable arrangement. 

not as easy for Chansiri to control someone if they have a big voice in the media. 

[s29wfc]

3 minutes ago, brian joicey said:

always believed this to be true  all along.

they're NOT allowed to manage ,they're just coaches/yes men. hence, no british managers any more.

 

And what's wrong with just wanting a coach to coach the players. Its what happens now at many clubs in England and around Europe. Its simple, Get results and you stay in a job, fans weren't complaining when we had Carvalhal and his staff just doing the coaching.

[McRightSide]

4 minutes ago, brian joicey said:

always believed this to be true  all along.

they're NOT allowed to manage ,they're just coaches/yes men. hence, no british managers any more.

 

I don’t think this is a huge problem - the manager is an important component of the leadership structure, but ultimately a dispensable one 

 

So I don’t think this issue is a manager not having control of all the matters at the club, but the seeming lack of an adequate footballing structure around that person. 
 

Ironically our best performance under Chansiri has come from the Head Coach model when we had a bit more of a footballing hierarchy around (albeit for a limited time)

[Inspector Lestrade]

11 minutes ago, Gob_Bluth said:

 

After his comments about Pulis and the press I make you spot on. 

 

He's doesn't seem to want someone who is chummy with the media 

 

Carlos?

[Pieman]

1 minute ago, McRightSide said:

I don’t think this is a huge problem - the manager is an important component of the leadership structure, but ultimately a dispensable one 

 

So I don’t think this issue is a manager not having control of all the matters at the club, but the seeming lack of an adequate footballing structure around that person. 
 

Ironically our best performance under Chansiri has come from the Head Coach model when we had a bit more of a footballing hierarchy around (albeit for a limited time)

Completely agree. The ‘head coach’ concept is here to stay. Given the money involved, it just does not make sense for one person to be making ‘all’ the decisions. However, as you say, it only really works when you have a successful team around you, providing quality support. There also needs to be a plan or strategy or philosophy, whatever you want to call it, that the whole team works to. The two shining examples of this are Southampton and Brentford.

[McRightSide]

Missed one - Palmer - now asking for the job, all the backing and saying he’ll pay back his salary if we don’t go up

 

Just took a few hours on the sauce after his Biggs interview for him to tweet his real agenda

Edited January 16, 2021 by McRightSide

[Blue and white]

And who can blame him, only a lap dog would work for this idiot.

[brian joicey]

7 minutes ago, McRightSide said:

I don’t think this is a huge problem - the manager is an important component of the leadership structure, but ultimately a dispensable one 

 

So I don’t think this issue is a manager not having control of all the matters at the club, but the seeming lack of an adequate footballing structure around that person. 
 

Ironically our best performance under Chansiri has come from the Head Coach model when we had a bit more of a footballing hierarchy around (albeit for a limited time)

witk knowledgeable football people above the a coach is sufficient, we have no one with an ounce of knowledge within the club.

we have an architect flying the plane in effect  

[Gob_Bluth]

7 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said:

 

Carlos?

Bit different though, Pulis and Cook already have established contact in the British media, Carlos came in a won them over with his style and demeanor, didn't use them to get what he wanted

Edited January 16, 2021 by Gob_Bluth

[morganowl]

2 minutes ago, Pieman said:

Completely agree. The ‘head coach’ concept is here to stay. Given the money involved, it just does not make sense for one person to be making ‘all’ the decisions. However, as you say, it only really works when you have a successful team around you, providing quality support. There also needs to be a plan or strategy or philosophy, whatever you want to call it, that the whole team works to. The two shining examples of this are Southampton and Brentford.

listen to a chansiri interview 3-4 years ago. "carlos is our manager not head coach he has final say on transfers"  so not sure on what the difference is between manager and head coach , the last few bruce monk etc told the recruitment people what type of players they wanted maybe put a few names forward too ,then they went to chansiri and talked money . there are very few managers what have total running of football clubs these days . 30 40 years ago they even offered wages etc those days are long gone. 

[vulva]

6 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said:

 

Carlos?

Carlos was good with the media. Not necessarily matey. 
 

Heard ages ago that DC signs everything off at the club, even down to paper clips. It’s a fair assumption that’s why so many people have left the club. Total control. No problem with running a business like that, as long as it works. When it doesn’t, you can’t blame anyone else.