striker Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 When does he become a credible candidate If it seems Chansiri wants to play championship manager and wants a coach to work with players Chansiri buys, rather than a manager to manage, surely he's a credible candidate more so than some of the names linked. Won more games than Pulis, knows and has the respect of players and a damn site cheaper than bringing in a random manager to sack in a couple of months. Based on the job specification Chansiri seems to be working with, ticks many boxes. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 When does he become a credible candidate? When he becomes a Paxo man. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ronio said: When does he become a credible candidate? When he becomes a Paxo man. Sad, but true. Was hoping to swerve that criteria as he's already at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I don’t think Thompson or Bullen would ever get the gig because Chansiri wouldn’t want to fire them when it all goes wrong. They’re long servants he falls back on when it goes títs up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Maybe Thompson doesn't Want the job Just happy to fill in til Dc finds the man he wants 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Thompson appointed until end of the season is still likely outcome for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Royal_D said: Thompson appointed until end of the season is still likely outcome for me If not Cook, rather him than the other names on the list. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s29wfc Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, striker said: If not Cook, rather him than the other names on the list. Really?? Has he ever been a head coach / manager apart from at Boston ? Ivic has won titles and cups around Europe. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, s29wfc said: Really?? Has he ever been a head coach / manager apart from at Boston ? Ivic has won titles and cups around Europe. Most of his career in the European giant leagues like Greece and Israel. If anyone can name 5 other teams in those leagues without Google I'd be impressed. Based on 22 games experience in English football when he alienated the squad, played 'dreary' football and was sacked despite admittedly a decent PPG ratio, suggests red flags. I'm just fed up with dogshit football. Chansiri doesn't want a manager, he wants a coach and Thompson is a very good one of those. Done ok so far as head coach. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s29wfc Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, striker said: Most of his career in the European giant leagues like Greece and Israel. If anyone can name 5 other teams in those leagues without Google I'd be impressed. Based on 22 games experience in English football when he alienated the squad, played 'dreary' football and was sacked despite admittedly a decent PPG ratio, suggests red flags. I'm just fed up with dogshit football. Chansiri doesn't want a manager, he wants a coach and Thompson is a very good one of those. Done ok so far as head coach. So cos they may not be elite league do they not count? He has a 60% win ratio throughout his career, he'll have a winning mentality that could bode well for us. Also that dreary football at Watford got them to 5th place and won the manager of the month just before he left. To be fair to him his cv blows all the other candidates out of the water. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s29wfc Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Also those that say Thompson is doing well, I'll say it again, 2 pulis esq line ups and tactics and we just got on the right side of the luck in both games, 2 better opposites and we'd have been well beaten, what will happen when we lose a few on the bounce? Has he got the nouse to bounce back? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, s29wfc said: So cos they may not be elite league do they not count? He has a 60% win ratio throughout his career, he'll have a winning mentality that could bode well for us. Also that dreary football at Watford got them to 5th place and won the manager of the month just before he left. To be fair to him his cv blows all the other candidates out of the water. Disagree. Don't think he's a good fit for anyone but certain advisors and Watford who save on his severance package. A trophy is a trophy, but the quality of those leagues is poor. On that basis should we consider an approach for Neil Lennon? Monk also won manager of the month in the EPL as well as championship and I wouldn't want him back either. Aside from that man management questionable, not suited to our mentally fragile squad. Changes formation every other game, not suited to our squad as we've seen over recent years when previous managers have done it and yet another negative purveyor of dreary football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, s29wfc said: So cos they may not be elite league do they not count? He has a 60% win ratio throughout his career, he'll have a winning mentality that could bode well for us. Also that dreary football at Watford got them to 5th place and won the manager of the month just before he left. To be fair to him his cv blows all the other candidates out of the water. Any manager or coach worth their salt could get a 60% win ratio from the clubs he has managed. There is very little competition. He parked the bus and bored everyone to tears at Watford with one of the best squads in the league and ultimately failed. I thought Chansiri wanted an attacking philosophy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I’ve had so many gambling winnings purely gained from ponderous Chairman riding out the caretaker manager honeymoon period. If it wasn’t for COVID I reckon I’d have got there with Thompson too...still might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 He is the default option. Foreign manager list is decimated as a lot would not get work permits and good managers deterred by offer of 4 month contract (end of season). Hence only those who have shocking records would be interested. The British managers worth their salt will ask for control of football related matters, this will cause problems with advisors. This leaves list of serial failures. If any appointed the fan base would be on their backs and DC as soon as any adverse result occurred. Thompson did question approach to signings the other day which suggests he is not entirely happy about arrangements. Bullen was ultimate yes man yes sir three bags full type but Thompson is proper coach knows his stuff and would challenge those currently with power. Even if NT appointed we would need other coaches brought in as we are currently short on this front. DC in tricky position. His advisors have let him down and in words of Posh Chairman whoever advised to appoint TP should be shot. DC needs to wise up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 15 hours ago, striker said: When does he become a credible candidate If it seems Chansiri wants to play championship manager and wants a coach to work with players Chansiri buys, rather than a manager to manage, surely he's a credible candidate more so than some of the names linked. Won more games than Pulis, knows and has the respect of players and a damn site cheaper than bringing in a random manager to sack in a couple of months. Based on the job specification Chansiri seems to be working with, ticks many boxes. For me it's a bit like employing Dave Jones after sacking Megson All Jones had to do was to turn up, say to the players 'right - forget all that nonsense you were told before, go back to enjoying your football and attacking teams' and then let natural improvements happen. Then after that initial spell he actually had to manage the players, deal with issues, manage after losses etc Long term it might not work out with Thompson for that reason Then again at our club who WILL it work out for? 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Quist said: DC needs to wise up. That's not something he's shown any inclination to do for the last 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, mogbad said: That's not something he's shown any inclination to do for the last 5 years. We can but hope. This is most difficult position he has been in and sometimes it takes one hell of a mess to get somebody to see sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneeyedmilkman Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I think a lot of our recent victories are very much down to luck and a couple of players probably wanting to prove Pulis' style of football wrong. To give Thompson the job knowing what's at stake if we go down is lazy, cheap and massively unfair on Thompson. He'd be given no money and instead be thrown advised recruits on him, and wouldn't have back room staff. Fwiw ivic is also very firmly in the 'terrible ideas' pot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 15 hours ago, striker said: When does he become a credible candidate If it seems Chansiri wants to play championship manager and wants a coach to work with players Chansiri buys, rather than a manager to manage, surely he's a credible candidate more so than some of the names linked. Won more games than Pulis, knows and has the respect of players and a damn site cheaper than bringing in a random manager to sack in a couple of months. Based on the job specification Chansiri seems to be working with, ticks many boxes. In 175 games managerial career he has a win percentage of 28% that would make him one of the worst manager we have ever. he has not managed a team since 2004, bar stepping in for us every so often as coach. It's one thing setting up a team for a few games, it's another thing building a successful team. For me it's a no, but DC does love a cheap option so he has a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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