SiJ Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I mean, what is the barometer of success here? We stick to this "model/structure" and get progressively worse. And yet the penny never seems to drop... I suspect what happens is the worse it gets, the more Chansiri (egged on by his advisers) deflects and blames the manager, the fans etc. The mindset seems to be: "I know what I'm doing. We've assembled this great squad (they haven't). You should be challenging for promotion." I don't like Pulis, but I believe a big part of him getting sacked was his views on the brilliant squad assembled by Chansiri. On the other hand, Monk was willing to go along with the farce, but was incapable of getting anything consistent out of the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 The best bit is: the worse it gets, the more control Chansiri will look to exert on the footballing side of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 12 hours ago, Bluesteel said: Continental coaches are used to this so that’s probably what we will get now. Fairly sure Southampton and others have adopted the model whereby the club adopts an approach and recruitment strategy and the manager/coach feeds into that and manages the squad but isn’t in old school control. Doesnt float with traditional English managers but it’s not that unusual in modern football Southampton manager has huge input into club. He has formulated strategy from ground up.It is his choice who they sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Quist said: Southampton manager has huge input into club. He has formulated strategy from ground up. True I wonder what OUR strategy is (or has been over the last 5 years) and why we're sticking to it? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Gob_Bluth said: Biggs tweet this morning about Monk saying he was just offered players rather than pinpointing anyone Bloody ell...reyt scoop from Biggs...who'd a thunk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: True I wonder what OUR strategy is (or has been over the last 5 years) and why we're sticking to it? The fact it is not clear what strategy is says it all. The only time when we moved in right direction when Bruce was in charge. He brought fitness and recruitment guys in which were required. Unfortunately you need individuals in a club whose focus is only on Wednesday and not running their own and other businesses (i do not mean DC). This leads to conflict of interest and problems. Terrible news for Wednesday. No manager worth his salt woud accept job under those constraints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: Bloody ell...reyt scoop from Biggs...who'd a thunk it. Oh look - a post about the writer and not debating the topic - how novel and how thrilling Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Beats me why they all want to work here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, sherlyegg said: Beats me why they all want to work here... ££££££££!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Oh look - a post about the writer and not debating the topic - how novel and how thrilling Oh look- a poster who thinks something new has been revealed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, sage owl said: ££££££££!! Exactly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, sherlyegg said: Oh look- a poster who thinks something new has been revealed.. Seriously though - it's getting pretty tedious to want to read about a topic only for folk to immediately slate whoever said or wrote something about our club It adds nothing - ever Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Oh look - a post about the writer and not debating the topic - how novel and how thrilling I know what your saying but AB is a master at telling us stuff we already know. I thought his programs on Sheffield live were good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, sage owl said: I know what your saying but AB is a master at telling us stuff we already know. Might be stuff YOU already know but as we see in every single article by every single writer there are always those that don't It's a simple case of the article isn't being written for YOU specifically but the wider public Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: True I wonder what OUR strategy is (or has been over the last 5 years) and why we're sticking to it? DC mentioned his philosophy in the last media briefing. I’d absolutely love to know what this is. It sounds exciting. Why can’t this be communicated to fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graz gp Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Does anyone know why it's taking so long to appoint a new manger/coach. DC needs to make a decision. The saga is going on forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Owl Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) After sleeping on it I feel like Cook didn't need to say all what he did. I kinda feel he's shìt on the "club" in a certain way. Edited January 16, 2021 by Incognito Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Incognito Owl said: After sleeping on it I feel like Cook didn't need to say all what he did. I kinda feel he's shìt on the club in a certain way. WHAT THE FOOOOOOOK Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagarri Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 13 hours ago, Bluesteel said: Continental coaches are used to this so that’s probably what we will get now. Fairly sure Southampton and others have adopted the model whereby the club adopts an approach and recruitment strategy and the manager/coach feeds into that and manages the squad but isn’t in old school control. Doesnt float with traditional English managers but it’s not that unusual in modern football You make it sound as if Chansiri/Paxo has some sort of plan or work flow...there really isn’t. It’s just a hit and hope policy. Bored of his sh*t, as are many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Owl Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: WHAT THE FOOOOOOOK Haha thanks, I had a think whether to post that or not. I just feel he's got some sour grapes with it all. It's the last paragraph what mostly does it for me really, with him talking about modern day football and with good clubs needing to be allowed to manage them, if not you're an employee. This is the complete opposite today though with good/big clubs, like someone kinda mentioned before with the Spurs documentary (Chansiri wants a head coach not a manager remember.) I just feel he didn't need to say this, he could have just said something along the lines of I applied last time, but got no answer. The club made contact this time, but talks are no longer happening etc. I thank the supporters/club and wish them well in the future. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. I've just got up and thought I'll write my thoughts on it again, I'll check all the other news/information on it later. Edited January 16, 2021 by Incognito Owl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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