WhiteOwl91 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Wouldn’t surprise me about Bruce though, think what’s happened since with FFP and not being able to resign the likes of Fletcher? No chance he’d have wanted to be part of that, wouldn’t have got a Newcastle type job ever again if he’d hung around with us getting points deductions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: You joke but the best managers at Sheffield Wednesday are the ones who big the club up, understand the fanbase and have a bit of personality about them. Big clubs need big characters. Firm believer in this. They also need a manager with big club experience do they not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, WhiteOwl91 said: Wouldn’t surprise me about Bruce though, think what’s happened since with FFP and not being able to resign the likes of Fletcher? No chance he’d have wanted to be part of that, wouldn’t have got a Newcastle type job ever again if he’d hung around with us getting points deductions. People in my opinion are incredibly naive if they thought Bruce only left for Newcastle. He would not have stayed around. Sources close to Bruce claim he was on the phone to his agent to find him a way out pretty quickly into his Wednesday tenure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sticky Micky said: We'd be lucky to have Paul Cook is the most stupid thing I've heard since that idiot monk suggested reach was a striker We’re certainly not lucky to have Chansiri in charge. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 This definitely shows if he’d would have got the job Cook would have been good at keeping the fans on side through the media at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, pazowl55 said: They also need a manager with big club experience do they not. Depends. Laws, Sturrock, Megson I don’t think ever managed a club as big as Wednesday. And they are among are most successful managers since the turn of the century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, McRightSide said: This definitely shows if he’d would have got the job Cook would have been good at keeping the fans on side through the media at least And this isn’t a bad thing at all. It’s part of being a manager being able to build a rapport with the fanbase. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 DC wants to be hands on but doesn't have the experience or competence to do so, even with his advisors. No manager with respect for himself wants to come in and be managed in how they manage a team, we're going to struggle to find a manager until DC changes his strategy. Or the club will eventually get shafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of Clubs Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I feel sorry for any manager after Carlos. They are the face of the club but are being constantly controlled behind the scenes by people who have no real direction. This comment by Cook echoes what Cowley said in Football Focus last week. When asked if he was close to management again he said it had to be the right club and the right owners. Clearly a slight at DC there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I’d be quite interested to see the clubs staff structure who feeds in to who and who’s responsible for what at what level where the advisors sit on that level ( right next to chansiri I’m guessing How the recruitment cycle starts progresses and finishes what footballing matters the head coach actually overseas What influence day to day role the advisors have there is so much to do with footballing matters physio sports science health and diet Travel training Selection youth recruitment philosophy etc.... I wonder who sets those up and overseas it Chansiri being led by advisors mananager, it’s all a little worrying how so many managers and professionals are making the wrong noises in how chansiri has structured the club my take is if he wants a head coach he needs a director of football and I think he’s trying to do everything himself it’s not the way he needs to stop playing toy with it and have a stronger people making key decisions because these advisors just seem like yes men to his dream and it’s not working 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Someone is upset his mate hasn't got past first interview stage Seriously, given what the Boro owner accused monk of if I was a multimillionaire football club owner I wouldn't let him near pinpointing the players either. Hardly surprising steve Bruce sources would say that, wouldn't want the snake to look bad for negotiations with NUFC behind our backs. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: So why did we employ Bruce or Pulis? If DC just wants a head coach why did he employ two managers who are well known for wanting to be hands on? Personally I think he just doesn’t really know what he wants. He wants whatever his advisors tell him he needs because he’s clueless. There’s no structure or forward planning. Everything he does is reactive to the results of his mismanagement. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: As Chansiri himself has said we aren’t as big a club as we think we are. In the shocking state Chansiri has turned this club in to I feel we would be lucky to have Paul Cook as manager. We were a big club until Chansiri took over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: People in my opinion are incredibly naive if they thought Bruce only left for Newcastle. He would not have stayed around. Sources close to Bruce claim he was on the phone to his agent to find him a way out pretty quickly into his Wednesday tenure. Yes and no. He could have walked before Newcastle came in, but he never did? Would you be surprised if Bruce got sacked at Newcastle tomorrow and a manager at a bottom half championship club turned the Newcastle job down? I would. I think everyone single one of them would take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 DC - "Roll up, Roll up, who wants to join Sheffield Wednesday on our race to the bottom?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, El Toro said: I feel sorry for any manager after Carlos. They are the face of the club but are being constantly controlled behind the scenes by people who have no real direction. This comment by Cook echoes what Cowley said in Football Focus last week. When asked if he was close to management again he said it had to be the right club and the right owners. Clearly a slight at DC there. I took that as Cowley knew he wasn’t in line for the job so made a stand off comment based on the Pulis Chansiri media blow out that was ongoing at the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: That didn’t work too well for Pulis. Not winning many games and playing rubbish football didn't work too well for Pulis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: You joke but the best managers at Sheffield Wednesday are the ones who big the club up, understand the fanbase and have a bit of personality about them. Big clubs need big characters. Firm believer in this. We are not a big club though, good passionate fan base but not a big club. We could have been but a certain Dave Richards ruined all that. We have been in decline ever since. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRUCE LEE Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, andytrig said: Agree, but how does that happen? Starts with him setting a realistic fee for the club As opposed to making snide comments at fans who have lost total confidence in his ability to run the club It’s not surprising but equally it’s still bizarre that he asks fans to buy him out Easy to say from the wealthy, privileged perch he was born on Plenty of people out there who could do a much better job with a fraction of the money he has thrown away 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasthagotanycheese Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Dej Boy's ineptitude knows no bounds. He might as well just appoint David Hockaday right now. This bloke is so stubborn he is taking the club to a very dark place indeed. Be interesting to see how many folk are prepared to fund his narcissism when crowds are allowec back. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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