NOT jack whitham Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 FOR F@CK SAKE CHANSIRI GET COOK IN NOW...please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I don't want Cook now If Chansiri begrudgingly gave it to him after a fan backlash could you imagine how it would turn out? Nahhh - sod that We have no choice but to move on Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I don't want Cook now If Chansiri begrudgingly gave it to him after a fan backlash could you imagine how it would turn out? Nahhh - sod that We have no choice but to move on Christ. It would all be our fault wouldn’t it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, NOT jack whitham said: FOR F@CK SAKE CHANSIRI GET COOK IN NOW...please 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 We haven't done too bad since our last manager departed ..... Onwards n upwards ...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Pointless getting your hopes up. The club isn't going anywhere but down under Chancer. I'm starting to despise the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbleowl Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, IWEDFM said: A manager should always be the one that calls the shots when it comes to training, tactics, signings etc. Yes the chairman needs to be supportive and he decides what money is available to spend but it should always be the manager that makes the final call as it falls on his shoulders if results aren't going their way. I know in Europe the model is different and it's common for a head coach to accept players that are put infront of him and he has to get on with it but to be succesful a manager especially with 20/30 years experience in football has to be allowed to manage the team in the way he see's fit otherwise the chairman should just save on a wage and manage the team himself Your right but I would imagine 70/80% 0f clubs are run like us in the top 2 divisions. I think a prime example are brentford and maybe reading even man utd do it this way the difference is they do it far better than us with scouting and recuitment. This is why if you get it wrong which we are it leaves your manager/coach with a disjointed team and players who cant play your system, which ends with disgruntled fans and then dismissal. Paul cook would have end up exactly the same as monk and pulis unless he accepted he was only a coach and not a manager which is why Carlos was reasonably successful he knew his job which is why l think we will go foreign again if possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewswfc Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 15 hours ago, Ozymandias Owl said: This is another irony about Paul Cook, in the interview posted on Owlstalk this week he stated he preferred to stick to the same formation, so over a period of time, and with work on the training ground, players learn the formation and style of play. Eventually his methods make better players and lead to better results. That was music to my ears... So once again we're opting for a football genius who's going to blind the players with science and changes in formation. I hope for DC and Att, it finally works out for us... I hope att's his own man and is watching his old man fűčkîng us up and as some ideas how to get us out of this poo when he's handed the reins.... How old is he? When can he start? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, SallyCinnamon said: Christ. It would all be our fault wouldn’t it It will be anyway! I'd rather take the blame for our choice of appointment than his! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Milan Mandaric tried to sell the club to that Azerbaijan guy or was it Kazahkstan. Then Chansiri . Took the money and ran. Did he really do due diligence on the kind of guy he was. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, victorturner said: Milan Mandaric tried to sell the club to that Azerbaijan guy or was it Kazahkstan. Then Chansiri . Took the money and ran. Did he really do due diligence on the kind of guy he was. Didn't DC say there was a load of money owed by the club that he knew nothing about when he bought it? Infact it only came into the public domain recently so it could be that he only found out about it recently. From memory it was mentioned at the recent press briefing. If I'm right it's not very impressive due diligence on DC's part or his accountants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, Drewswfc said: I hope att's his own man and is watching his old man fűčkîng us up and as some ideas how to get us out of this poo when he's handed the reins.... How old is he? When can he start? He's been one of our 'advisors' for years, hasn't he? Remember Carvalhal revealing it was Att who made the final decision on appointing him as manager? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gizowl Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Hookowl said: Haven't read all the thread yet so this may have already been said, but what struck me about it is "If you're not allowed to manage you're an employee not a manager" I may be a bit naive but I always understood that a manager of any company was employed by that company and therefore an employee. Unless they are an owner manager. You can see what he's getting at, yes he's employed but he is totally responsible for the results and performances of the team yet with interference on key issues including player recruitment and possibly other things. Not really a recipe for success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 hours ago, @owlstalk said: I don't want Cook now If Chansiri begrudgingly gave it to him after a fan backlash could you imagine how it would turn out? Nahhh - sod that We have no choice but to move on If Chansiri is vindictive how come Paxo is still breathing? Or is he more than just an advisor? We left it to these two last time and look what happened. Cooky's clearly mad keen and the more fan pressure applied better, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 hours ago, BRUCE LEE said: Aye Because it’s not like there’s half a dozen league clubs mid takeover at present is it Clearly deluded Have you really not noticed the events at Wigan and Sunderland? Many Wigan fans fearing another relegation unless a buyer with a suitable bid comes in , meanwhile they've had to sell all their best players. What happened to Bury, Macclesfield and Bolton with so many buyers........and that was before Covid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewswfc Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 32 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: He's been one of our 'advisors' for years, hasn't he? Remember Carvalhal revealing it was Att who made the final decision on appointing him as manager? Fűčk me years n years of torture to come then. They always say the apple never falls far from the tree. Brilliant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I get what cook is trying to say but it's doing my head in, the manager is still an employee. Glad to get that out of my system 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Don't know what he is moaning about, he ain't going to be an employee anyway. Suppose he could be a part owner...then see how happy he would be when an ex Red Lion Rovers manager wants to spend his money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, sherlyegg said: Don't know what he is moaning about, he ain't going to be an employee anyway. Think that's what he's really moaning about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Its evident that DC much prefers employees and customers than he does managers and fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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