SwintonLad99 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 37 minutes ago, Señor Sam said: No one should listen to the Peterborough chairman he's a conman and a thief. Google Macanthony Realty Spain, then give your heads a good shaking for supporting this thief. I’ve just read up on it, very interesting. Got found not guilty though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wens-Dee Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Genuine question as just a bit unclear on the matter. When he says if you’ve a wealthy owner there should be no excuse for not paying the wages. Can an owner fund the wages out of their own pockets or surely wages are club expenses. Our problem has been that we have a wealthy owner who isn’t able to spend outside FFP rules. So no matter how wealthy the owner, if the club are not generating the income to pay wages then the owner can’t just put an extra say 2 million into the club to sort the problem. Not just us but Derby etc. I get they could maybe subsidise it for the month if the books balance but if the club is making less money than the wage bill month after month can the chairman just pay it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 hours ago, McRightSide said: Club owner celebrating win in crucial relegation 6-pointer. Shocking behaviour Full on poseathon for sky. Talk about counting chickens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Wens-Dee said: Genuine question as just a bit unclear on the matter. When he says if you’ve a wealthy owner there should be no excuse for not paying the wages. Can an owner fund the wages out of their own pockets or surely wages are club expenses. Our problem has been that we have a wealthy owner who isn’t able to spend outside FFP rules. So no matter how wealthy the owner, if the club are not generating the income to pay wages then the owner can’t just put an extra say 2 million into the club to sort the problem. Not just us but Derby etc. I get they could maybe subsidise it for the month if the books balance but if the club is making less money than the wage bill month after month can the chairman just pay it? I think the issue is cash flow rather than FFP this season. There must be flexibility on the latter given costs remain similar for clubs and income is nil. To be fair he said he can’t criticise owners during a pandemic. It’s a huge burden for all of them to be fair as they are told to fulfill fixtures and they have to keep clubs in existence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Nosy barstard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Could listen to him all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Baggins Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 12 hours ago, SiJ said: I can imagine he's a proper pr*ck in "real" life, but he seems to be pretty on the ball when it comes to operating a club in the lower leagues. Yeah did me, my family and friends out of a significant amount of money regarding a property purchase back in 2007. Took us 2 years to get the deposit back after he finally admitted the properties were never going to be built. Treat us and the dozens of others with utter contempt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 42 minutes ago, Tea Baggins said: Yeah did me, my family and friends out of a significant amount of money regarding a property purchase back in 2007. Took us 2 years to get the deposit back after he finally admitted the properties were never going to be built. Treat us and the dozens of others with utter contempt. Absolutely the guy is a complete shepherds stick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 29 minutes ago, Big Jack said: Absolutely the guy is a complete shepherds stick. Most are. Our own owner not exactly Ghandi. Posh hired staff who found Tomey for two bob from Newcastle and made millions on re-sale. Again and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 10 hours ago, Wens-Dee said: Can an owner fund the wages out of their own pockets or surely wages are club expenses. Our problem has been that we have a wealthy owner who isn’t able to spend outside FFP rules For FFP, club owners can cover all losses due to Covid, it's in the rules. So Chansiri can cover every fan that hasn't come through the door, but December was the third time Wednesday haven't paid wages in full so cashflow is not a Covid specific issue at Wednesday. He's paying Wednesday in installments using a backstreet lender for Hillsborough. He's as rich as his dad allows him to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I love his straight talking and brutal honesty. So refreshing in today's cesspit world of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookeh Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Tony Pulis said: Quite interesting comments, starts just after 44:40 Darragh MacAnthony speaks out on Sheffield Wednesday Didn't find it particularly insightful or intersting tbh. Basically: If Chansiri did X that's bad, if he did Y tht's good.. but we don't know which he did. And this guy thinks no one should ever hire Pulis. Not exactly amazing commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 14 hours ago, striker said: "whoever his advisor is should be shot and fired" Who is arguing against that ? I love people who shoot straight language is a bit rough but I'd love it if we had this guy in to look at what's gone on and his take on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Señor Sam said: No one should listen to the Peterborough chairman he's a conman and a thief. Google Macanthony Realty Spain, then give your heads a good shaking for supporting this thief. This! Absolute belltip! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) No doubt though, that DC has been poorly advised. Given the success of our year one recruitment, under Roeder and Co, why did he feel the need to change that recruitment model? Without taking into consideration staged payments, and any loan fees we might have paid, we appear to have spent around 10m in year one, probably more like 9m net. With that spend, Carlos took us to a Wembley play off final Looking at that season one squad, I reckon we would have reached the play offs without the 13m second year spend, maybe even promoted had we brought in 2 or 3 strategic loans. In season three, we spent a further 12m, most of it on Jordan Rhodes. So despite the new advisors bringing in a further 28 players , at a cost of nearly 25m, there was no real improvement So much money wasted, largely on ageing players who were no better than what we already had. That was the last of the real spending, in year four, we actually had a net profit on transfers of 1.2m. In the latest season, we again made a profit of somewhere around 6m. These are of course, estimated figures based on reported transfer fees, so probably not 100% accurate. As I said, they don’t take into account staged payments, or any loan fees that may have been paid, or even received. It’s the poor , and largely unnecessary, recruitment in seasons two and three, which has set us back, and led us to where we find ourselves today Edited January 15, 2021 by gurujuan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 22 hours ago, El Toro said: What’s it got to do with him? He was asked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Comes across like an arrogant a-hole to be honest. I heard the bit when he was taking about mental health and he had some good points. But he said "...if my daughter wanted a shrink she'd get one. If my wife wanted one, well why would she? She's got me" I know it was a joke. I'm not going all 'snowflake' but the way he said it mixed with his attitude just makes me think, yeah that was joke, but you also meant it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 20 hours ago, HullOwlPhil said: What's the point of shooting someone and then firing them? I can only assume he means shoot him in the kneecaps or something, then fire him. You'd basically have to fire him at that point, or you'd have some real trouble with a "constructive dismissal" case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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