wellbeaten-the-owl Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Markowski77 said: By the sounds of it Derby are just as desperate for a striker as we are, their fans rate him - I think they are in a dire situation at present , and passing on his wages to us Don't think he is a bad option to compete with windass for one of the striker positions BUT still desperate for a physical presence up front who can hold ball up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocksyuto Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Don’t blame him for not wanting to go back to that circus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, gurujuan said: That would by my hope, in fact we’d all hope that is the case. Again though, he needs a partner as he’s too lightweight to play the lone striker role None of Paterson, Rhodes, Windass or Kachunga fit the bill. We are here again, 5 ill fitting strikers I accept no obvious pairing jumps out however sometimes some combinations work although do not look as though they will. Not saying this would work but how about Patterson as deep lying centre forward with Windass and Marriott either side running on to any balls knocked on. This would mean bypassing midfield and using long ball in counter attacking way. May work away from home as they would have to keep some players back due to pace of JW and JM. With AG and KH joining we have bench option to keep press on when sprinters gets tired. To get team scoring need to consider different ways of playing. With 5-4-1 ball just kept coming back as could not retain possession. Even with two it was difficult. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Shezza Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I wonder if he takes a wage cut if Derby go down? How long is he contracted to them for? Don’t think I’d be firing in too many screamers if it was going to cost me tens of thousands of pounds in lost earnings. Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ante's Bubbly Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Quist said: Derby were worried he would strike form and start scoring goals. Monk thought he was the bees knees and so we did not think sending back would be required. Derby currently in queer street and sending him back suggests reported problems are accurate as they are having more difficulty scoring than us. He was not fully fit when he arrived and struggled to come to terms with how we were playing. He was not only player to have this problem an most of the fans also were not sure what we were trying to achieve. Therefore think you can excuse his performances in few appearances he has made. A new manager may get the best out of him. He has pace good control and can find back of net. Problem was sustaining effort throughout the game. Lets wish him well and hope he can be successful loan player for us. I did not rate him at all during his time here, but that was mainly because he was injured and did not look fit. He was not the kind of player that Monk said he wanted at the start of the summer and he was a panic signing, coming in only after we had chased a very expensive and injured Lahore all summer, who we all said should be left alone, only for our esteemed leader DC to tell us just before the window closed, that lahore was too expensive and injured so we have come up with a cheaper injured player on loan instead. The situation did not bode well did it and so it turned out to be. Now, the optimist in me says, be fair to the lad, he has had an average to decent career in the lower leagues, with a scoring average of 1 in 3, while moving backwards and forwards from one loan to another, then suddenly he got propelled to the dizzy heights of the Championship at Derby, based on one very good year at Peterborough, then his scoring rate dissolved, getting less than half his goals per game ratio. Maybe he just needs the mending skills of Struddy, combined with the coaching skills of a Thomo, or Cook (-ie?) to bring out the best in him? At 26 it is doubtful, but stranger things have happened while wearing a blue and white shirt. Good luck Jack, we all need a bit of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imre Varadi's Conker Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Quist said: I accept no obvious pairing jumps out however sometimes some combinations work although do not look as though they will. Not saying this would work but how about Patterson as deep lying centre forward with Windass and Marriott either side running on to any balls knocked on. This would mean bypassing midfield and using long ball in counter attacking way. May work away from home as they would have to keep some players back due to pace of JW and JM. With AG and KH joining we have bench option to keep press on when sprinters gets tired. To get team scoring need to consider different ways of playing. With 5-4-1 ball just kept coming back as could not retain possession. Even with two it was difficult. Personally, I’d hope that we do a bit of wheeling and dealing because 5 ill fitting strikers are no use to anyone We’ve been here before haven’t we, and it’s about time we started learning some of these lessons Edited January 14, 2021 by gurujuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashamanic Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Not convinced that "player Derby don't want" is quite what we should be aiming for, but maybe beggars can't be choosers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest whowantstoberich Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 45 minutes ago, s29wfc said: Can we all reserve judgement until we've seen him actually play with some team mates around him in a formation where we don't play a 10 - 1. No I’ve seen enough thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pressman 1 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 He was gash last time,but guess it’s a fresh start who knows under a new manager might actually do something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pod9 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, sonofbert2 said: At least he’ll get paid here..... Yes but only £7k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest whowantstoberich Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pod9 said: Yes but only £7k 6.8k more than he’s worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnishOwl Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Derby can't afford to have him back and pay his wages so refused to do the callback clause (this is a guess) Question is now - does he actually even want to be here? Marriott might be frozen by both clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Best memory I have of Jack Marriott ... ITFC fans weren't happy that Mick McCarthy wouldn't pick Marriott for the 1st team ITFC vs SWFC, starlet Jack was on the bench. When McCarthy told him to warm up, their crowd started singing SWING LOW SWEET MARRIOTT ... So Big Mick told him to sit back down 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Definitely more a case of they can’t afford to pay his wages (He’ll get them here, just late!) No way would they risk leaving a striker at a relegation rival when they barely have any strikers. So the decision is purely financial, I’m sure ideally Derby would want him back and I’m sure Wednesday would probably want the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Belated Happy Christmas to Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 37 minutes ago, prowl said: Oh poo . They certainly aren't worried he will save us with a hatfull of goals. It’s probably more to do with Derby not being able to pay their staff We can’t talk on that topic - although it sounds like we’re all sorted on the wages front now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kew Owl Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 He hasn’t produced anything for us so far and I’m not holding my breath that anything changes. The fact that Derby are happy for him to go to one of their relegation rivals speaks volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzuki_San Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 When's he fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, stocksyuto said: Don’t blame him for not wanting to go back to that circus It's like leaving the Moscow state circus and joining Billy Smarts circus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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