Vladimir Ivić

[slinger208b 3,864]

20 minutes ago, s29wfc said:

Didn't Nixon also say the other day that Andre Green wasn't a done deal yet a few hours later he was all signed a posing for pics at the stadium? 

 

So it wasn't a done deal, then he signed and it was a done deal...

[TrickyTrev 13,830]

I remember when Chansiri came to the club, all the talk about entertaining, attacking football.

 

Since then he’s gone on to hire Carlos Carvalhal, Jos Luhukay, Tony Pulis and now possibly this guy.

 

At a time when fans are falling out with the club in their droves (largely thanks to the chairman) he goes and tries to bring in another negative manager to serve up more boring garbage like what has been inflicted upon us for the vast majority of the Dejphon Chansiri era.

 

Absolute genius!!!

[slinger208b 3,864]

Excerpt from "thesackrace.com";

 

"On paper, Ivic ticked all the boxes. Young, exciting, no-nonsense and a 'winner.' However the reality, despite their league position is that they have been below average in all but one game this season, but more importantly  the style of football has been poor and painful to watch"

 

Excerpt from "thetotallyfootballshow";

 

"Watford sacked Vladimir Ivic because his style of football was too dreary, and that they want a younger more dynamic coach."

 

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[wellbeaten-the-owl 1,039]

2 minutes ago, slinger208b said:

Excerpt from "thesackrace.com";

 

"On paper, Ivic ticked all the boxes. Young, exciting, no-nonsense and a 'winner.' However the reality, despite their league position is that they have been below average in all but one game this season, but more importantly  the style of football has been poor and painful to watch"

 

Excerpt from "thetotallyfootballshow";

 

"Watford sacked Vladimir Ivic because his style of football was too dreary, and that they want a younger more dynamic coach."

 

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Younger? He's only 43!

[Lawrie’s Left Peg 1,081]

4 minutes ago, slinger208b said:

Excerpt from "thesackrace.com";

 

"On paper, Ivic ticked all the boxes. Young, exciting, no-nonsense and a 'winner.' However the reality, despite their league position is that they have been below average in all but one game this season, but more importantly  the style of football has been poor and painful to watch"

 

Excerpt from "thetotallyfootballshow";

 

"Watford sacked Vladimir Ivic because his style of football was too dreary, and that they want a younger more dynamic coach."

 

...

Last thing we need after Monk and Pulis. It is possible to fight, be solid and attack occasionally. 

[s29wfc 1,301]

8 minutes ago, slinger208b said:

 

So it wasn't a done deal, then he signed and it was a done deal...

Yeah sure. You don't reckon Green would have known he was signing a good few days before he actually travelled up? So a good itk journo would have known that too. Nixon is all guess work. 

[Owls-Fan 4,127]

Mourinho’s style of play is not exactly Brazil is it? But he’s got results at every club he’s managed. Maybe Ivic and Watford weren’t the right fit.  Their fans clearly feel they are entitled to winning and entertaining football.  Fortunately we aren’t used to either.  
 

Watford have previously sacked Rodgers,   Dyche, Pearson, Silva, Jackett, Jokanovic.  They obviously have very high standards to meet 

[DeeJayOne 6,125]

1 minute ago, s29wfc said:

Yeah sure. You don't reckon Green would have known he was signing a good few days before he actually travelled up? So a good itk journo would have known that too. Nixon is all guess work. 

 

I know for a fact and from experience that Nixon is one of the most well informed journos regarding Wednesday (and a number of other clubs) out there. He has direct links to several levels at the club and in the industry in general.

 

 

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Haha got you Neil or whoever.Sorry to the people coming for the spicy content.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll post some spicy one's hehe.

You've got the right name for it. 

[s29wfc 1,301]

1 minute ago, DeeJayOne said:

 

I know for a fact and from experience that Nixon is one of the most well informed journos regarding Wednesday (and a number of other clubs) out there. He has direct links to several levels at the club and in the industry in general.

 

 

Alex Lopez always springs to mind when when talking about Nixon.

[DeeJayOne 6,125]

1 minute ago, s29wfc said:

Alex Lopez always springs to mind when when talking about Nixon.

 

And?

 

 

[3mps 1,056]

4 minutes ago, s29wfc said:

Alex Lopez always springs to mind when when talking about Nixon.

 

Twice I've told him something is happening and he shot me down, he didn't even say he hadn't heard it etc just said it wasn't happening (which it did) 

 

Don't doubt he has contacts, you'd expect that with his job, but he's far from always right (not even just with swfc) 

[s29wfc 1,301]

4 minutes ago, DeeJayOne said:

 

And?

 

 

When he said There was nothing in the Lopez rumour, later that day he had signed too. You may be right about having good links to Wednesday, But he also hedges his bets a hell of a lot and also gets stuff wrong.

[Southie_Owl 7,636]

9 minutes ago, Owls-Fan said:

Mourinho’s style of play is not exactly Brazil is it? But he’s got results at every club he’s managed. Maybe Ivic and Watford weren’t the right fit.  Their fans clearly feel they are entitled to winning and entertaining football.  Fortunately we aren’t used to either.  
 

Watford have previously sacked Rodgers,   Dyche, Pearson, Silva, Jackett, Jokanovic.  They obviously have very high standards to meet 

It’s a great point about their previous managers,  maybe we are trying to cash in on them letting the next decent one go 

[SallyCinnamon 24,023]

I just don’t think the players need an authoritative, disciplinarian type manager just after we got rid of one. This bloke sounds in the same mould as Pulis. But a bit younger and maybe a bit less hoof ball.

 

Is it what we want?  

[striker 7,600]

1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said:

I just don’t think the players need an authoritative, disciplinarian type manager just after we got rid of one. This bloke sounds in the same mould as Pulis. But a bit younger and maybe a bit less hoof ball.

 

Is it what we want?  

Probably not. Difficult to assess his suitability based on his time in Greece and Israel and  more red flags than positives from his time at Watford

[DeeJayOne 6,125]

8 minutes ago, 3mps said:

 

Twice I've told him something is happening and he shot me down, he didn't even say he hadn't heard it etc just said it wasn't happening (which it did) 

 

Don't doubt he has contacts, you'd expect that with his job, but he's far from always right (not even just with swfc) 

 

7 minutes ago, s29wfc said:

When he said There was nothing in the Lopez rumour, later that day he had signed too. You may be right about having good links to Wednesday, But he also hedges his bets a hell of a lot and also gets stuff wrong.

 

Nobody is ever 100% knowledgable about everything. Most people in the club itself doesn't know about a signing until it happens.

 

But when Nixon does have knowledge, he has real knowledge and is quite open with it. He is rarely wrong about the things he knows and he doesn't pin his hat on the things he doesn't know for certain (like others do). The very nature of a good journalist.

 

Nixon can usually be trusted on the stuff he does say.

 

 

[WalthamOwl 18,848]

9 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said:

I just don’t think the players need an authoritative, disciplinarian type manager just after we got rid of one. This bloke sounds in the same mould as Pulis. But a bit younger and maybe a bit less hoof ball.

 

Is it what we want?  

they need someone that can be strict but at the same time put his arm around certain players that need that. I don’t think Ivic is that man. 

[swfc1983 3,172]

4 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said:

I just don’t think the players need an authoritative, disciplinarian type manager just after we got rid of one. This bloke sounds in the same mould as Pulis. But a bit younger and maybe a bit less hoof ball.

 

Is it what we want?  

Not sure I buy this argument Sal. There is no suggestion Pulis was “authoritarian” at Wednesday, he was just out dated with his tactics and to be honest I think he wanted out as soon as he got in. Ivic is a lot younger than Pulis and you’d think a lot more in touch with the modern footballer. Carlos apparently ran a holiday camp and that was the blame for his downfall.
To be honest it’s all testicles anyway because it hinges on one thing only and that’s results. If your winning it works and your a genius and if your losing your the worst manager there has ever been. Right time, right place, right manager.

[Shetland Owl 1,426]

according to Nixon, Cook not on list and only 1 out of 5 not foreign - hope that's not Coleman