@owlstalk Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 What a dogger striker looks like. Strangely he turned out pretty decent. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawowl Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I sure we replaced him with Kim Olsen. always thought Holt had something about him. Just didn’t score enough. I remember being disappointed when he left which is strange for A striker with 4 goals In 30 games. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Is this a Jordan Rhodes thread or a Lucas Joao thread? 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Not to give our young prospects away. Saw him come on as a sub, cant remember who against. All elbows and knees, scared the centre halves to death. Would love him in our team now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Orlando_Trustful said: What a dogger striker looks like. Strangely he turned out pretty decent. This. I cant remember ever thinking we had a good player when he was here, just looked a 4th Division target man at best. On a par with someone like Barry Corr but went on to play and do well at a much higher level. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhollywood Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 We never learn, it's the Wednesday way. Our club is the old drunk guy in that Bruce Springsteen song, who's sat in the bar smashed banging on about how good he used to be. *My first two posts on here today have a been less than positive, i'll turn it around, promise! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Who would have ever thought he would carve such a career for himself based on his performances with us?! Full credit to him for improving as much as he did and making the most out of talent he had. His example shows that most players will do well if you Ask them to do what they actually good at and give them bit of support. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 For me, there are 3 ingredients to a good footballer. By that, I mean someone who contributes and makes the team better. After all, football at this level is a team sport, despite fans obsessions with individual players. They are: 1. The fundamental footballer 2. Match fitness 3. Confidence Item 1 is obviously 80% of the battle, but the latter two should not be underestimated, within an elite sporting environment. In order to perform at their optimum, players need to be given a run in the team, even knowing they will underperform until they ‘get up to speed’. Fans have to have some patience, which they largely do and the manager needs to instil confidence in the player to, as an example, hit the risky forward pass, as opposed to the safe square pass. Over the years, I think we do not recognise points 2&3 as much as we should and are too quick to write players off. Another point is players like Holt can be coached to improve their game. I am not sure how well we do at improving individual players sometimes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew6666 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Nothing, we learnt nothing. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I learnt that he seemed to have really big feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 55 minutes ago, Pieman said: For me, there are 3 ingredients to a good footballer. By that, I mean someone who contributes and makes the team better. After all, football at this level is a team sport, despite fans obsessions with individual players. They are: 1. The fundamental footballer 2. Match fitness 3. Confidence Item 1 is obviously 80% of the battle, but the latter two should not be underestimated, within an elite sporting environment. In order to perform at their optimum, players need to be given a run in the team, even knowing they will underperform until they ‘get up to speed’. Fans have to have some patience, which they largely do and the manager needs to instil confidence in the player to, as an example, hit the risky forward pass, as opposed to the safe square pass. Over the years, I think we do not recognise points 2&3 as much as we should and are too quick to write players off. Another point is players like Holt can be coached to improve their game. I am not sure how well we do at improving individual players sometimes. Brilliant post. We as a club and fans are no where near patient enough. Then we have the odd one who were over patient and persistent with when its clear to see there not up to standard. Its bizarre. The above point is key. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 You could say we saw that we could get a player for next to no money and improve him. Most of his appearances where subs so the 4 in 30 though better than all the strikers we currently have at the club is probably a lot better. There is some good talented players in none league if you have the time to better then you can both help your team but also improve you clubs bank balance. Look at the lad at Huddersfield Koroma 70 games in the national league for Orient Huddersfield signed him for a very small fee. After having a spell on loan he had 6 goals and 2 assist in 16 games before his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmJimmers Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 We learnt never ever sell any player ever, just in case they do eventually come good. On the flip side, we also never seemed to have learnt that players can run down contracts so they can leave if they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagarri Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Always remember seeing him play one of his first games (professionally) at Hillsborough. First thing he did wrong, felt like everyone ‘round me was screaming “you fat useless c*nt” at him, only a young lad. We, as fans really don’t help the situation...especially at Hillsborough. Horrid place sometimes. Glad he went on to have a good career. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 He was good for Norwich; average at the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls Loyal Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 We learned that Chris Turner was Walter Mitty and that he hailed from Planet Zog. He sold Grant Holt for £10,000 and used the money to bring in Kim Olsen!!! Grant went on to be a £1+ million pound player. Turner was truly bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Find it hard to remember a striker who had his best spell of his career with us, we tend to ruin them. Can’t think of any since Hirst. Feels like for 16 of the last 20 seasons we’ve played on the back foot and made it really difficult for attackers to play in our team. We’ve even managed to ruin one of the divisions highest ever scorers. Bet when Rhodes leaves he suddenly finds his scoring boots again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 2 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Improve the coaching staff and be patient with young players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, malek said: Who would have ever thought he would carve such a career for himself based on his performances with us?! ME It tends to happen Wednesday holds players back Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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