theowlsman Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I’m with you Dalmonbones 1 hour ago, Salmonbones said: I was looking into our keepers over the years and I had to have a double take. I have a memory lapse, I just cannot remember this guy but I absolutely must have seen him play because to be quite honest, I had a season ticket that season. Have I blocked this memory out for a reason? It can't have been THAT bad surely during this period? I’m with you mate. I don’t remember him either. Mandella Effect? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_77 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I think that’s the problem with a lot of us Wednesday fans. Too impatient with players. Kids pushing for the Argentina No 1 jersey. Maybe a good reason not to write Wildsmith or Dawson off to early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Salmonbones said: I was looking into our keepers over the years and I had to have a double take. I have a memory lapse, I just cannot remember this guy but I absolutely must have seen him play because to be quite honest, I had a season ticket that season. Have I blocked this memory out for a reason? It can't have been THAT bad surely during this period? Think he played mainly in the cup games. You might not have seen him if you didn’t claim your seat for them. Think I saw him once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Salmonbones said: I'm just more shocked I have no recollection! Me either! Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Claw Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 rotherbottom too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Sheffield Wednesday: Damian Martinez wants to stay - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25453003 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Ellis Rimmer said: He was terrible for us. I was amazed that Arsenal kept him on. Even more amazed that he's become one of the best keepers in the PL Terrible? He was pretty average and made some mistakes but never conceded more than 2 in a game. He was 21 at the time and it was his first proper spell at senior level for anyone, he did OK. Not sure how you can be so amazed at where he is at now based on that spell alone, he has developed well. There aren't that many goalkeepers who stand out as destined for the top in their first dozen or so professional games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesy87shef Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Ellis Rimmer said: He was terrible for us. I was amazed that Arsenal kept him on. Even more amazed that he's become one of the best keepers in the PL This. I’m surprised people don’t remember him, he was garbage. Looked poor on other loan spells too. He did have good raw elements and keepers do tend to develop and come into their prime later in their careers. Now looks a quality all round keeper. Shocked Arsenal kept him so long. Obviously worked very hard and good luck to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Gray brought him in from the Arse. I remember Prutton said he was a perpetual handshaker. Would walk in the dressing room and shake everyone’s hand all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Why do we seem surprised young players can develop into top talent. We haven't invested into the future as much as we should have past few years. Got a clear memory of Danny Ward walking past Westwood, when it was penalty shoot outs versus Huddersfield. Ward towered over Westwood. He went on to sign for Leicester for over 10m I think, can't get a kick because of Kasper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 7 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: Terrible? He was pretty average and made some mistakes but never conceded more than 2 in a game. He was 21 at the time and it was his first proper spell at senior level for anyone, he did OK. Not sure how you can be so amazed at where he is at now based on that spell alone, he has developed well. There aren't that many goalkeepers who stand out as destined for the top in their first dozen or so professional games. He didn't do ok mate. Nobody wanted him back. Nobody thought he would become a top keeper and at the end of the day not becoming a first team keeper until he was 27 shows how unusual his progression has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 He was here in 2013 - 7 years later he’s doing really well. Fair play to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onge Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 12 hours ago, Mac_77 said: Kids pushing for the Argentina No 1 jersey. Maybe a good reason not to write Wildsmith or Dawson off to early. I'll be amazed if either Wildsmith or Dawson end up in the Argentina squad to be fair... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Ellis Rimmer said: He didn't do ok mate. Nobody wanted him back. Nobody thought he would become a top keeper and at the end of the day not becoming a first team keeper until he was 27 shows how unusual his progression has been. Nobody wanted him back? https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/206657-martinez/#comments https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/205715-anyone-want-martinez-permanently/#comments https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/213143-our-goalkeeper-situation/#comments https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/212593-gamble/#comments Not entirely accurate. As I said, I didn't expect anyone to identify him as being a top keeper based on his first dozen professional appearances at Championship level but to label him a terrible on that basis and write him off at that point is somewhat short sighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocksyuto Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Stuart gray signing wasn’t it? Played a handful of games and every liked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 36 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Nobody wanted him back? https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/206657-martinez/#comments https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/205715-anyone-want-martinez-permanently/#comments https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/213143-our-goalkeeper-situation/#comments https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/212593-gamble/#comments Not entirely accurate. As I said, I didn't expect anyone to identify him as being a top keeper based on his first dozen professional appearances at Championship level but to label him a terrible on that basis and write him off at that point is somewhat short sighted. Cherry picking mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Cherry picking mate. You said 'nobody' mate, simply proving that wasn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, hirstyboywonder said: You said 'nobody' mate, simply proving that wasn't the case. Well obviously you can find a positive about anyone on here. I remember somebody claiming Ben Sahar was so underwhelming because he was literally too good for Wednesday and his movements were simply too advanced for our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Well obviously you can find a positive about anyone on here. I remember somebody claiming Ben Sahar was so underwhelming because he was literally too good for Wednesday and his movements were simply too advanced for our players. I quickly found 4 threads mate in which the opinions were divided. Not the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: I quickly found 4 threads mate in which the opinions were divided. Not the same thing. I did the same search you didn't post the threads that were critical of him=cherry picking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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