JOCOWl Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 10 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Is it really that bad!? No, not at all, it's just that footballers are spoilt nowadays and it has to be like a carpet or its classed as unplayable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 35 minutes ago, mattitheowl said: And what does any of that have to do with the question at hand? Would he be up there and winning majors if you parachuted him in to the 70's. I know club and ball technology has changed things, but lets let him keep his modern kit and go up against the guys at the time with theirs (similar to boots and balls in football). I can't think of one single sport that hasn't progressed in leaps and bounds in the last 50 years, where the OK, not world beating athletes, but decent pros couldn't beat the top guys of 30/40/50 years ago. As I said, you know little of the sport. Fairways are wider, course designs are easier. Rough grass doesn’t exist on some courses. And if you think MF, as great as he is, with the aid of modern technology and longer hitting clubs, could outperform Tom Watson or Jack Nicklaus over a decade, I’m afraid you are off your proverbial rocker. It’s about raw ability. Why, in polls of best footballers ever, do Pele, Maradonna, Cruyff, Beckenbauer constantly get mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: As I said, you know little of the sport. Fairways are wider, course designs are easier. Rough grass doesn’t exist on some courses. And if you think MF, as great as he is, with the aid of modern technology and longer hitting clubs, could outperform Tom Watson or Jack Nicklaus over a decade, I’m afraid you are off your proverbial rocker. It’s about raw ability. Why, in polls of best footballers ever, do Pele, Maradonna, Cruyff, Beckenbauer constantly get mentioned. Because they can only reliably be measured in their time. If you are the greatest of a generation you will look great. Pele was so good because he was the first who could ride the horror tackles of the time. Cruyff brought new trickery to the game. Maradona similar. But if you put Pele on a pitch today, I doubt if he'd be seen as the greatest ever. It's more than just raw ability. There are plenty of athletes out there with raw ability who don't make it. 1 Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 42 minutes ago, mattitheowl said: Because they can only reliably be measured in their time. If you are the greatest of a generation you will look great. Pele was so good because he was the first who could ride the horror tackles of the time. Cruyff brought new trickery to the game. Maradona similar. But if you put Pele on a pitch today, I doubt if he'd be seen as the greatest ever. It's more than just raw ability. There are plenty of athletes out there with raw ability who don't make it. You've come back to this thread but not answered this one yet. Still waiting to see how Paterson, Reach and co would give the likes of Megson and Marwood the run around. 6 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: The current Wednesday team would not run rings around the Wednesday team that finished top 6 in the 80's. Yes they are fitter now but they weren't so unfit in the 80's that they couldn't go all out for 90 minutes. They enjoyed themselves and a long season would take its toll but Wilkinson had them very well drilled and fit. Our team weren't carrying beer bellies. Do you think Paterson would is much fitter than Megson was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 The cheek of Shrek! Coming from the original Desso head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, The only way is S6 said: The cheek of Shrek! Coming from the original Desso head. Rew-nay ! Rew-nay ! Rew-nay ! over hyped little ********. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Just now, Sergeant Tibbs said: Rew-nay ! Rew-nay ! Rew-nay ! over hyped little ********. Over hyped little t0sser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyowl Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Seems most managers are coming to the mighty Hillsborough and complaining!!!! Means we are getting to them and results are coming our way so carry on with the poo pitch is say. However its not in the best shape - there s a few like it though and the short summer hasnt helped though. I know they was advertsing for a new head man and assistant 18 months ago so obviuosly those staff left and the replacements either have limited experiecne or have left also...i know one lad went to rotherham as groundsman and there game is off!!!! at least we had our game on a day earlier in freezing temps. One observation from other neyt was there was some black covers next to dugout area? thought we had undersoil heating? has the gas been cut off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 18 hours ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: All sports have moved on. But skill levels and the things that can’t be taught are the leveller. I can drive a golf ball 280 yards all day long. So why am I not mixing it with Matt Fitzpatrick. Because your short game and putting is rubbish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, daveyboy66 said: Because your short game and putting is rubbish Err, sort of. Although I blame my caddie(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mildatheart67 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, mannyowl said: Seems most managers are coming to the mighty Hillsborough and complaining!!!! Means we are getting to them and results are coming our way so carry on with the poo pitch is say. However its not in the best shape - there s a few like it though and the short summer hasnt helped though. I know they was advertsing for a new head man and assistant 18 months ago so obviuosly those staff left and the replacements either have limited experiecne or have left also...i know one lad went to rotherham as groundsman and there game is off!!!! at least we had our game on a day earlier in freezing temps. One observation from other neyt was there was some black covers next to dugout area? thought we had undersoil heating? has the gas been cut off No undersoil heating at New York stadium ,guess that's the trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aingarth Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 The truth about the pitch is that it hasn't done well in the winter in the past few years in spite of the Desso surface. The pictures show February 2018 and February 2019, both at times when we had the sunlights in operation. attached show February 2018 and also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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