NeonLeon Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 The notion that the over spending is not solely his fault is mind boggling. Moaning you can’t afford the plug the money drain you chose to make wider is mind boggling. Blaming fan expectation for you not being able to fund the club you own is mind boggling. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 DC can't win!! No I mean literally, he can't win....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, billyblack said: For £351 million That's not what he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlsdreamer Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, TodwickOwl said: They are getting one? Im just not buying into it people screaming for refunds If a season ticket refund is the difference between getting by everyday - you shouldn’t be getting one. If I was paying £50 a month for a season ticket and there was no rainy day fund in case of emergency - I wouldn’t go to the game. Pretty simple really And Scrooge was bad done to for 3 ghosts visiting him merry Xmas to you Todwick Owl in your little cosy bubble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, bladeshater said: A big thanks Neil well done The imbecile who posted a picture of Adolph Hitler as the press conference was about to start wants his or her account deleting totally embarrassing individual Not seen that one Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, TodwickOwl said: Of course it’s coming It might take 12 months Thats 20 quid a month refund over that period probably coming my way If I was desperate for 20 quid a month I’d seriously seriously think about going to the game any longer So you are claiming a refund even tho you admitted you dont need it...shocking.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 51 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: DC on season’s aims If you ask me know, it is very difficult for playoffs. We have to make staying up a priority and to be in a good position. It is not easy. He's right though. Can't see us making Europe either unless things turn round quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiregreenowl 80 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: I'd have to scroll 30 pages to find out the answer mate so sod off and do it yourself We'll done Neil. Go and have a lay down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, akbuk said: That's not what he said I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatricowl Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, A12owl said: What is his "own business"? Are you saying you don't know? Sounds a bit fishy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, Therealrealist said: So you are claiming a refund even tho you admitted you dont need it...shocking.. Say again? Ive claimed a refund - because I’m not getting something I’ve paid for, I just don’t need it right away I’m not shouting at Chansiri for not getting it though because at the end of the day I gave the money away for some entertainment - it’ll come when it’ll come. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spondon Owl Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: You do have to wonder when reading posts like this just how bad it has to get at his own football club for this fan (And others of the same persuasion) to stop and evaluate the chairmans' performance/results No offence personally Buxtongent - I'm just making the wider point that it's mindblowing how bad things are but it seems that criticism of it is somehow anti-swfc? I think DC is and has been widely criticized but this wasn't the worst conference we've seen. Maybe that says it all right there. Four key things need to happen from here on in: Good manager appointed; Manager backed in January (within FFP); Get out of the bottom three; Refunds to people. Not in that order. But this will go a long way to rebuild trust between fans and DC. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys Salopettes Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, vulva said: So much for the NDAs then. Stand by your beds for the Pulis response. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, TodwickOwl said: They are getting one? Im just not buying into it people screaming for refunds If a season ticket refund is the difference between getting by everyday - you shouldn’t be getting one. If I was paying £50 a month for a season ticket and there was no rainy day fund in case of emergency - I wouldn’t go to the game. Pretty simple really Equally, if the season ticket money were the difference between keeping the club running or not being able to pay the players' wages, I wouldn't spaff £8m plus wages on Jordan Rhodes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, Spondon Owl said: I think there were some positives and negatives. He appears to be trying to run the club within FFP. He says all the players have been paid. He says the refunds will be done. Beyond that he has said he will have a new manager in asap and will continue to fund the club as best he can. Negatives are the statements around cash flow and future player payments. Some of his comments about fans will not be taken well although I think some of it is lost on translation. His statements on advisors may also worry but I'd be hard pressed to find hard and fast info on whether this model or any other model was employed by other clubs. All in all its not the best but certainly not the worst we've seen. Credit where its due hes tried to get his points across but it may be better to employ a figurehead for the day to day running of the club. well done on a really well balanced comment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Thanks Neil. I enjoyed that. I will give him one thing, he isn’t afraid to speak his mind. There are big cultural differences, especially round the use of social media, which he has to deal with better. I hate reading the excessive negativity on this site when we lose, but I just log off for a day or two and let it blow over. He clearly takes things personally, when it is part of a much wider issue (social media use in general), which i suspect is different to how social media is used in the Far East. His biggest strength and biggest weakness, seems to be his trusting nature. He takes people at their word. He doesn’t then like it when they change their tune - which I like e.g. Monk said the players were good enough, Pulis said he could play different styles. The question we are all asking, is why are these statements being believed in the first place, who is giving him his second and third opinion? Bottom line, he needs better advisors, going forward. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Neil The next time any of us asks for more information & transparency from DC please delete the thread & ban the poster from Owlstalk. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Neil thank you for posting the updates in my eyes all went well until someone decided to post a picture of Hitler giving the Nazi salute ,not called for 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, owlsdreamer said: And Scrooge was bad done to for 3 ghosts visiting him merry Xmas to you Todwick Owl in your little cosy bubble Why is it a cosy little bubble exactly? You’ve paid money to watch football at Hillsborough and can’t go - it’s nothing substantial, it’s nothing tangible, that money was gone anyway Now you’ve lost 2 hours at the match there is some sort of massive desperation to have that money back? Don’t get it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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