Ante's Bubbly Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 30 minutes ago, enigmamedusa said: Going against the grain here... I don't think spending money is the way forward. We've tried that, a couple of times, and it normally ends up with us being massively in debt. Sort out the infrastructure, the academy, the scouting, the staff. Have a strategy on recruitment. Maybe even pay the players. We'll be fine. 31 minutes ago, enigmamedusa said: Going against the grain here... I don't think spending money is the way forward. We've tried that, a couple of times, and it normally ends up with us being massively in debt. Sort out the infrastructure, the academy, the scouting, the staff. Have a strategy on recruitment. Maybe even pay the players. We'll be fine. Spending money wisely needs somebody at the club to actually know which players we need and sign them on sensible wages for a sensible fee. That person in the good old days when owners just coughed up the money, used to be the manager. He would have a budget, buy the players, sort out the wages and then have to get results, or he was out. Now there are too many rich foreign owners who know next to nothing about football but want to appear like the next messiah while just blowing lots of money on rubbish. Unfortunately our owner has just blown loads of money on players who have come and taken as much money as they could get and left the club. For some reason DC preferred sacking managers who got stuck with DC advisor's rubbish signings, to sacking the advisor. Hopefully his latest aid knows more than the last, but it could just be another leach coming in to suck as much blood out of the club as they can. Just get a proper old fashioned manager in DC and let him run the club and spend the club's budget on whatever he sees fit. At least then, if he needs sacking it will be for his own mistakes. I hope I am wrong about you Erik, but you smell dodgy to me, please prove me wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesy87shef Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Well just caught up on all 35 pages. I can understand women more than I ever get what’s going on with this club the last few years. As crazy as is it, as much of a disappointment it’s been supporting Wednesday, it’s never boring is it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ante's Bubbly Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Does this remind anybody else of tha Cloud9 group or whatever they were called? Maybe another way of getting money in like the non existent taxi sponsor! Or another way of getting money out like Paixo almighty! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 49 minutes ago, enigmamedusa said: Easier said than done, but I love the Brentford approach. Don't know if it's cost them lots of money https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7924507/Brentfords-maverick-methods-club-charge-Premier-League.html "Acquiring the league's top performers for big fees, loaning players from a super agent's stable and owners selling stadiums to themselves has all become a common occurrence in a league where clubs face a race against the financial fair play clock to reach the promised land. " But Brentford 'no d***head' policy when recruiting players hierarchy structure of two directors of sport in Phil Giles and Rasmus Ankersen, as well as owner Matthew Benham Bit like a moneyball approach a 'B team', made up of a handful of exciting 16-20 year olds that adopts a style of play, culture and training consistent with that of the first team. The B team works closely with the senior squad, meaning that Frank is confident in calling a player up if in need due to their exposure to the first-team environment Yeah but even with Brentford’s strategy what they’re doing is selling a player here and there for £20m then buying half a dozen players for a couple of million with the right attributes. I think Watkins cost them £2m from Exeter. It’s still sizeable money on relative unknowns in the knowledge that you only need to hit 1 in 5 successes to breakeven. Our problem is we’re starting at zero and have no saleable assets (maybe Iorfa). So we’d need to stump up £20m just to get started building a squad of unknowns like they have. Their players are usually decent because they aren’t free transfers.. they have pedigree at a lower level or overseas. Knowing our luck we’d pay the money and end up with a squad of duds with none worth anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammo Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Harrowing read this. Looks like the club once again hasn't done appropriate due diligence. The guy screams dodgy salesman and Chansiri's fell for it. Why would any respecting businessman who understood football be splashing this all over Instagram? He can't believe his luck and he's wanting to scream and shout about it to raise his profile in the short term. If this turns out to be anything other than a disaster I'll be mightily surprised. My only hope is that this company and him are just acting as a go-between for real investment from external sources. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, trevdi9 said: world bloody darts Weak Blavdes Defence ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePiusX Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) Not being negative but this is extremely dangerous from their boxing division, they'll get battered Edited December 31, 2020 by PopePiusX typo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southportdc Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, PopePiusX said: Not being negative but this is extremely dangerous from their boxing division, they'll get battered that I That's a great idea. Never lose a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southportdc Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, enigmamedusa said: Going against the grain here... I don't think spending money is the way forward. We've tried that, a couple of times, and it normally ends up with us being massively in debt. Sort out the infrastructure, the academy, the scouting, the staff. Have a strategy on recruitment. Maybe even pay the players. We'll be fine. Not sure paying the players without spending money is a good plan. They'd be well miffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, NeonLeon said: He runs a company that makes cakes for Guinness World Record attempts. "And I bloody well nailed it as well, yet some people continue to insist that I'm not a successful businessman!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, enigmamedusa said: I don't think spending money is the way forward. We've tried that, a couple of times, and it normally ends up with us being massively in debt. Yes, we technically spent money, but not in a way that brought quality or value to the side. I'm not arguing for spending money, but I don't think we actually have "tried" it. Burning a pile of money isn't called trying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 What a ******** strange football club we have become, I honestly don't recognise us anymore. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 He's invited me out to his villa in Spain. I've been told to bring plenty of condoms and a litre of lube. WHAT does this mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Hitcat said: He's invited me out to his villa in Spain. I've been told to bring plenty of condoms and a litre of lube. WHAT does this mean? Chansiri ? is that you ? I'd have thought you were still anally suffering after paxo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 The return of Billsaga ? What a time to be alive that was Thankfully I am older and wiser than waste time and energy on the narcissistic characters that we have an uncanny knack through desperation of attracting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls-swfc Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 What time is this news briefing set for this am then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Hopefully they reveal Geoff Sheard at today's press conference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 35 pages of investigation and nobody has yet found any examples of similar work he's done with other clubs And there are fans literally creaming themselves How does anybody expect the Chairman to learn lessons from the past when our fans don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 4 hours ago, TaxiMark said: What a ******** strange football club we have become, I honestly don't recognise us anymore. Aye. We've become an empty shell of our former selves, tangled in a web of businesses both real and dormant that don't actually do anything or produce anything, with characters who have no background in anything other than a web of businesses both real and dormant, most notably acting as middlemen for others in football (and face masks FFS!), who would still have been able to conclude business without them. We've sold our soul, very much like Chelsea and Man City. We've won fizz all, very much unlike Chelsea and Man City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marro Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Agree Manwe. We were prepared to sell our souls to the devil to become the next Chelsea. We thought we were getting someone like Abramovich - an astute businessman, a winner. Instead we ended up with a Basil Fawlty type. Only Wednesday. It’s the Wednesday way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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