Owls Loyal Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I really agree with Quist that scouring unemployed managers is not the best route to take. Also that we should steer well clear of anyone who has been out of work for more than 12 months (medical reasons excluded). We struck lucky with Big Ron in that he had just been fired at Athletico for no reason by an erratic Chairman. On this basis Paul Cook should be considdered but Chris Coleman fails to qualify 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Cook could have an issue ,Sign his own players etc ,Paxo saying that is not possible . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Owl Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 54 minutes ago, Quist said: Thats a fair point and one reason no great success. Scouring ranks of unemployed is never best source of managers. If out of work over 12 months should not be considered. 36 minutes ago, Owls Loyal said: I really agree with Quist that scouring unemployed managers is not the best route to take. Also that we should steer well clear of anyone who has been out of work for more than 12 months (medical reasons excluded). We struck lucky with Big Ron in that he had just been fired at Athletico for no reason by an erratic Chairman. On this basis Paul Cook should be considdered but Chris Coleman fails to qualify I kinda agree with the 12 months bit, but recently Pochettino was out of work for over 12 months (a different class of manager though haha.) I personally wouldn't role out looking at those managers in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 37 minutes ago, Incognito Owl said: I kinda agree with the 12 months bit, but recently Pochettino was out of work for over 12 months (a different class of manager though haha.) I personally wouldn't role out looking at those managers in that situation. Pochettino was still being paid by Spurs. They did not pay his contract up so was technically still employed. I take your pointthough and their will be exceptions to rule. i was told a while ago. A new manager should not have been out of work for more than 12 months and he should have enjoyed success at more than one club. Also to avoid if last success was more than 5 years ago. Also to look at how team finished if set off well and did poorly was not a good sign. It thins candidates down but some do qualify. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1963owl Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Standidno said: Cook doesn’t want any part of this poo show reyt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Standidno said: Cook doesn’t want any part of this poo show Clearly does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nethertonowl Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Jeffjohnsonmyhero said: Cook could have an issue ,Sign his own players etc ,Paxo saying that is not possible . Why do you think that’a an issue, we signed Monk, I know for a fact at previous clubs he arrived and told players out right if you don’t change your agent to mine , You won’t be playing!( I have spoken to one player and another’s agent , before you ask for source) One of them was very surprising given he had started every game and was clearly first choice before monk arrived. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Owl Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 29 minutes ago, Quist said: Pochettino was still being paid by Spurs. They did not pay his contract up so was technically still employed. I take your pointthough and their will be exceptions to rule. i was told a while ago. A new manager should not have been out of work for more than 12 months and he should have enjoyed success at more than one club. Also to avoid if last success was more than 5 years ago. Also to look at how team finished if set off well and did poorly was not a good sign. It thins candidates down but some do qualify. Yeah some good targets for looking at the candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, nethertonowl said: Why do you think that’a an issue, we signed Monk, I know for a fact at previous clubs he arrived and told players out right if you don’t change your agent to mine , You won’t be playing!( I have spoken to one player and another’s agent , before you ask for source) One of them was very surprising given he had started every game and was clearly first choice before monk arrived. Is he coming then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Owl Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I don't really go by the odds, but can someone post them please as I like to see who's on them etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlInCardiff Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Incognito Owl said: I don't really go by the odds, but can someone post them please as I like to see who's on them etc. Just click on the link in the first post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Owl Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, OwlInCardiff said: Just click on the link in the first post Ah, ok thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 There’s been little movement in the market for several days. Cook’s been odds on favourite for a week and seems no nearer to getting the job now than he did a week ago? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Wonder if us having our next 2 games postponed will work against Thompson. If we had played them and won I think he would have got the permanent job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andysowls Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Gi it Thompson til end o’season....players seem t’respect him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Quist said: Pochettino was still being paid by Spurs. They did not pay his contract up so was technically still employed. I take your pointthough and their will be exceptions to rule. i was told a while ago. A new manager should not have been out of work for more than 12 months and he should have enjoyed success at more than one club. Also to avoid if last success was more than 5 years ago. Also to look at how team finished if set off well and did poorly was not a good sign. It thins candidates down but some do qualify. Surely if it was the other way round they wouldn't be unemployed. That leaves us with only poaching managers from other clubs which isn't going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shezza Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Looks like the bookmakers went with Cook. Must have assumed nobody would be stupid enough not to appoint him in our position. Anyone got a «hold my beer-meme» with Chansiri?. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 With indefinite travel ban on South America and Portugal no chance of us getting manager from these destinations. If Brazil variant gets hold in Argentina you can Spain and Italy getting bans too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, 83owl said: Surely if it was the other way round they wouldn't be unemployed. That leaves us with only poaching managers from other clubs which isn't going to happen. No for example Wigan were in higher position than when Cook took over and teams form was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, WalthamOwl said: Wonder if us having our next 2 games postponed will work against Thompson. If we had played them and won I think he would have got the permanent job. I still think Thompson at 12/1 is where the value is. Give it another week and I think his price will come in. If he was to get the job it would be with the task of keeping us up pure and simple. There would be no long term plan for now. There simply can’t be until we know what division we’ll be in next season? Longer term I can see another swathe of senior pros leaving and if budgets continue to be cut, it’s going to be a difficult job going forward. I’m still expecting the model of players being provided for the head coach as the way forward. It’ll split opinion on here but what doesn’t? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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