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55 minutes ago, shezzas left peg said:

Carlos failed, he got lucky in season 1 as the underdogs with nothing to lose with a side mainly almost entirely built by his predecessor. They added flair and cought everyone unaware.

 

Season 2/ he cracked under the Weight of expectations and changed tack becouse we were no longer also rans. He then bottled it in the semi against a beatable Huddersfield and missed out on a final against a very average Reading side. 

 

I don't call that success. 

Can you name the teams that lost in the FA Cup semi finals the last half dozen seasons??. Nope becouse they FAILED to win it. 

His object was promotion, we missed out, so hence forth he was a failure as he didn't get the job done. 

Ask any professional sportsman /athlete who dosent win?? 


Apart from the dozen or so signings made by the club during the summer after Carlos was set on, 6 of who were starters in the play off final with another 4 on the bench.

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1 minute ago, OutwellOwl said:

Did you NOT realise that one of those PPE contracts was given to a SPECIALIST manufacturing plant in Europe ... and that the French impounded . confiscated ... and then distributed and used OUR PPE in France, widely reported in the media at the time !!

 

 

No just the massive one that they ordered from China and had to incinerate because it wasn't fit for purpose. At least we had the bin bags they supplied though. They came in handy for wrapping the bodies in...

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4 minutes ago, OutwellOwl said:

Did you NOT realise that one of those PPE contracts was given to a SPECIALIST manufacturing plant in Europe ... and that the French impounded . confiscated ... and then distributed and used OUR PPE in France, widely reported in the media at the time !!

 

 

Just looked up the story thanks. It was in the Sun which I'll happily gloss over, although the article does confirm that although the vehicles were impounded they were eventually released with all contents still on board. Not sure why you made up the second bit?

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Barton as favourite. Astonishing really.

 

A very clever bloke. Not your average footballer. However, he does have a mad streak.

 

He always has a point to prove. You never know.

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5 minutes ago, heppers said:

Barton as favourite. Astonishing really.

 

A very clever bloke. Not your average footballer. However, he does have a mad streak.

 

He always has a point to prove. You never know.

 

You know, Chansiri is probably nutty enough to appoint Barton. 

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2 hours ago, shezzas left peg said:

Carlos failed, he got lucky in season 1 as the underdogs with nothing to lose with a side mainly almost entirely built by his predecessor. They added flair and cought everyone unaware.

 

Season 2/ he cracked under the Weight of expectations and changed tack becouse we were no longer also rans. He then bottled it in the semi against a beatable Huddersfield and missed out on a final against a very average Reading side. 

 

I don't call that success. 

Can you name the teams that lost in the FA Cup semi finals the last half dozen seasons??. Nope becouse they FAILED to win it. 

His object was promotion, we missed out, so hence forth he was a failure as he didn't get the job done. 

Ask any professional sportsman /athlete who dosent win?? 

When you say "mainly" it was five out out of the first 11

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57 minutes ago, Shiregreenowl 80 said:

When you say "mainly" it was five out out of the first 11

Quite, and Gray never got anywhere near the play offs

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Bruno Lange and Vladimir Ilic added to list overnight. It appears our advisers are throwing names at DC each night. If you look carefully there is a pattern emerging and you can see where names are being sourced.

 

Lange has never managed for 24 months or done 36 months as manager in last 5 years thank the Lord. It si doubtful would get work permit he equalled worst ever record at Benfica and that is some achievement in Portugal with Benfica. 

 

Ilic has own thread and have already said I think he is by far best foreigner on list and he is aware of league although only spent 4 months managing in it. Some of our players may not be keen on him as he works players hard.

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My only concern is that "working the players hard" may appeal to many supporters, I understand that.

 

But to fall out so badly with Troy Deeney is concerning.

 

Deeney is Mr Watford in the view of their fans. 

 

He has made nearly 400 appearances and scored well over 100 goals for the club.  Many at Premier League level.

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7 minutes ago, Owls Loyal said:

My only concern is that "working the players hard" may appeal to many supporters, I understand that.

 

But to fall out so badly with Troy Deeney is concerning.

 

Deeney is Mr Watford in the view of their fans. 

 

He has made nearly 400 appearances and scored well over 100 goals for the club.  Many at Premier League level.


I suspect Troy Deeney also thinks he’s Mr Watford & should be an automatic choice even though he looks a stone or two overweight. Ivic was probably trying to show who’s boss.

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10 minutes ago, mogbad said:


I suspect Troy Deeney also thinks he’s Mr Watford & should be an automatic choice even though he looks a stone or two overweight. Ivic was probably trying to show who’s boss.

 

Giver over, Deeney is in exceptional condition, he makes Paterson look like a weight watchers club host. 

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To be honest I have had it with freezing out as happened with us under Luhukay and Monk.

 

Deeney would be a great addition to our attack but he is of course backi in favour at Watford. I take a diiferent view to Mogbad who said:

 

1 hour ago, mogbad said:


I suspect Troy Deeney also thinks he’s Mr Watford & should be an automatic choice even though he looks a stone or two overweight. Ivic was probably trying to show who’s boss.

 

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No clear fav now, can get 4/1 Barton, still fav though.

Reckon he's had his interview with Chansiri and he's said, will let you know.

 

(Barton said that)🤐 btw

 

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3 hours ago, Owls Loyal said:

But to fall out so badly with Troy Deeney is concerning.

 

 

Troy Deeney could have a falling out inside an empty room

 

The man is a top class bellend - it's not an indication of anything

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