Guest Mcguigan Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 9 hours ago, SiJ said: Oh to be as enlightened as the great and wise McGuigan. It is possible to play nice football and not defend like complete clowns. As for being about the game and spectacle and not the result: What a load of pretentious waffle. Your welcome and I’ll return the compliment. So, when I need enlightening on matters involving sarcasm and being condescending, you’ll be the first poster I consult. Have a safe Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 He’s good. No idea some can label him the best in the world though as he’s won absolutely nothing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Baggins Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Its now very apparent that Bielsa will never change his tactical outlook or style. I reckon teams have worked them out and quite simply, defend well and surge them on the counter is the key with pace. Yesterday was the perfect example, playing James, Rashford and Martial up top was a good move by OGS, Leeds got over-ran every time and had nothing in response. It was only down to Man U's bad defending that they got 2. They looked so leggy in midfield and even the worlds best DM in Phillips aka 'The Yorkshire Pirlo' couldn't handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlinmad Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Bielsa was out thought by the tactical genius that is OGS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 13 hours ago, Mcguigan said: Same usual suspect, inward looking Wednesday fans. Not got a clue. 3 hours ago, Mcguigan said: So, when I need enlightening on matters involving sarcasm and being condescending, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmJimmers Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Think the point many are making is he's up for Coach of the Year after getting a decent Leeds team promoted. Forget Klopp winning the PL with Liverpool, Flick winning the CL or Tuchel taking PSG to their first ever CL final. Wilder got United promoted on a fraction of his budget, and almost got them into Europe ffs. He was nowhere near. Its just because he's eccentric and likes to attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Anyway, I much preferred him when he was in Corrie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I was in amazement at Martin Tyler gushing over Leeds during the match yesterday when they had conceded 6, yes 6 goals. Has everyone gone mad? It might be entertaining but they got hammered by 6 goals against probably the worst Manchester United side in 30 years. Since when did that make you some kind of footballing genius? It was reckless and the result showed that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) It's very odd. Look, they play some good football and are having an ok season, but the gushing praise, refusal to criticise them. I'm listening to Neville (along with Tyler) going wax lyrical over a team who just shipped 6 goals. Neville says he can't criticise them because they're entertaining, but if other teams played liked that then he would be slating them. Why such double standards? Honestly, I sometimes wonder if Sky have a stake in Leeds. Not many clubs get quite such sycophantic levels of coverage. Edited December 21, 2020 by SiJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 It also comes across as quite patronising to Leeds imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mcguigan Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, SallyCinnamon said: I was in amazement at Martin Tyler gushing over Leeds during the match yesterday when they had conceded 6, yes 6 goals. Has everyone gone mad? It might be entertaining but they got hammered by 6 goals against probably the worst Manchester United side in 30 years. Since when did that make you some kind of footballing genius? It was reckless and the result showed that. Do you think the result would have been any different if they had put 10 men behind the ball and conceded 60-70% possession to Man U? Lose by the odd goal after parking the bus and never threatening their goal for 90 minutes or get after them and at least have a go. They had more attempts and shots on target than both Chelsea and Man City put together against them this season. Klopp, Nuno Espirito Santo, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Sean Dyche, Slaven Bilic and Roy Hodgson have all lost by 4 goal margins this season already, it happens to the best, even some footballing geniuses have conceded 5 this season. No love for those scummers but Bielsa is different class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mcguigan said: Do you think the result would have been any different if they had put 10 men behind the ball and conceded 60-70% possession to Man U? Lose by the odd goal after parking the bus and never threatening their goal for 90 minutes or get after them and at least have a go. They had more attempts and shots on target than both Chelsea and Man City put together against them this season. Klopp, Nuno Espirito Santo, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Sean Dyche, Slaven Bilic and Roy Hodgson have all lost by 4 goal margins this season already, it happens to the best, even some footballing geniuses have conceded 5 this season. No love for those scummers but Bielsa is different class. Quite a few teams have gone to OT in recent seasons and had something resembling tactics and come away with 1 or 3 points. Bielsa as said is a good manager, vastly vastly overrated cos he sits on a tub and speaks Spanish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mcguigan said: Do you think the result would have been any different if they had put 10 men behind the ball and conceded 60-70% possession to Man U? Lose by the odd goal after parking the bus and never threatening their goal for 90 minutes or get after them and at least have a go. They had more attempts and shots on target than both Chelsea and Man City put together against them this season. Klopp, Nuno Espirito Santo, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Sean Dyche, Slaven Bilic and Roy Hodgson have all lost by 4 goal margins this season already, it happens to the best, even some footballing geniuses have conceded 5 this season. No love for those scummers but Bielsa is different class. Possibly I do yes. Manchester United have terrific pace on the counter and Leeds played straight into their hands. Literally the worst possible way to set up against the likes of Bruno, Martial and Rashford who are superb on the counter attack with pace to burn. Sure they had some attempts on goals, but they conceded 6 ffs. Considering teams like Palace and Arsenal have managed to get a result against Man Utd this season, not defending like an under 11s Sunday League team might have seen them get something from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mcguigan Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Possibly I do yes. Manchester United have terrific pace on the counter and Leeds played straight into their hands. Literally the worst possible way to set up against the likes of Bruno, Martial and Rashford who are superb on the counter attack with pace to burn. Sure they had some attempts on goals, but they conceded 6 ffs. Considering teams like Palace and Arsenal have managed to get a result against Man Utd this season, not defending like an under 11s Sunday League team might have seen them get something from it. Dallas, Ayling, Cooper and Allioski probably cost less than £5m between them. Three of them where out of their natural positions and the keeper is vastly inexperienced at that level despite being a good prospect. Man U front three where always going to score and if the starting three didn't the multi million pound options off the bench would have. That Leeds defence yesterday wouldn't look out of place against us. Well below PL standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Burnley went to Old Trafford last season and won 2-0... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds U from sheff Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 On 21/12/2020 at 17:07, Mcguigan said: That Leeds defence yesterday wouldn't look out of place against us. Well below PL standard. To be fair we have all four centre halves injured, we don't have one to play at the moment. We are currently playing a young midfielder and a right back in there......... plus another midfielder dropping in when opposition go 2 up front. Think we are doing remarkably well considering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlinmad Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Another Bielsa masterclass against Jose. He's another hyped up one trick pony just like Cwissy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Yep another masterclass by Bielsa. Literally played straight into Spurs hands. They’ll sit back and watch you pass it about for 80 minutes when they’re 3 up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirksandallowl Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 It looks exciting going forward and nobody can claim it isn’t entertaining, but they are a ******** car crash at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 8 hours ago, kirksandallowl said: It looks exciting going forward and nobody can claim it isn’t entertaining, but they are a ******** car crash at the back. Ayling, Cooper and Dallas 2 bang average champ defenders and a decent winger made into a LB Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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