torryowl Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: so do think some of them they arnt trying ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, torryowl said: so do think some of them they arnt trying ? Do you think they're trying harder because of the conditions at the club? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Do you think they're trying harder because of the conditions at the club? i never once thought this squad arnt giving there all ....you tell me who arnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: It's not about that though is it? Imagine you were working somewhere who started doing this kind of thing and only paying you and your colleagues 20% of your wages on time and the rest later on? What would your perceptions of that company be? Now - add to this that the customers of this business had bought something eight or nine months ago and yet your company hadn't given them a refund that they requested It's getting all too easy for Wednesday fans to see issues at our club and immediately try to always deflect them away in the manner that you're doing, but right now the last thing we need is MORE bad news stories coming out of our club. You need to make your mind up. Is it a rubbish squad or are they rubbish because of the pay structure? Under both Monk and now Pulis the team, as bad as they are at times, the players have never looked like they have gone “on strike” at anytime and fees have been paid in the close season within the new structure if it is in anyway true. Clubs will go under if there is another lockdown after Christmas. Every business in the entertainment business is struggling with cashflow and maybe, if true, it’s maybe a sign of financial prudence and another swivel re. FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, sonofbert2 said: Every business in the entertainment business is struggling with cashflow and maybe, if true, it’s maybe a sign of financial prudence and another swivel re. FFP. But we're (Eventually) paying all players in full? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barumowl Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I just hope that DC hasn't been so stupid to have bought what is claimed to be a legal tax avoidance method of paying salaries by some ********** firm of accountants. If so, whilst it may work in the short term, speaking as a retired Tax Inspector, the club is quite likely to find itself on the receiving end of a very extensive investigation, possible litigation and ultimately a massive bill for PAYE, NIC plus interest and penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, Barumowl said: I just hope that DC hasn't been so stupid to have bought what is claimed to be a legal tax avoidance method of paying salaries by some ********** firm of accountants. If so, whilst it may work in the short term, speaking as a retired Tax Inspector, the club is quite likely to find itself on the receiving end of a very extensive investigation, possible litigation and ultimately a massive bill for PAYE, NIC plus interest and penalties. Can't see it being anything like that Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I get fed up of reading how many things that DC does that's against the grain of traditional footballing process. 10 Year Season Tickets Own Name Sponsorship Pay Structure Bespoke Shirt Designer These are just a few of the strange things we've had to hear. Why can't we just do things the same way as every other club? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barumowl Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 People in a financial hole do strange things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Non contractual payments to players are strictly prohibited under EFL rules. Swindon Town were relegated after being promoted in 1990 for irregular players payments and the chairman of Accrington Stanley was required to explain just giving the players money to buy fish & chips on the way back from away games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 DC has it all under control, he knows what hes doing,............ Wheres the new CEO anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barumowl Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 30 minutes ago, kobayashi said: Non contractual payments to players are strictly prohibited under EFL rules. Swindon Town were relegated after being promoted in 1990 for irregular players payments and the chairman of Accrington Stanley was required to explain just giving the players money to buy fish & chips on the way back from away games. Agreed but the payments over and above the £7k are said to be the balance of the contractual payments so if there is a 'fiddle' that would be a very stupid way to try it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Swiss Toni said: I get fed up of reading how many things that DC does that's against the grain of traditional footballing process. 10 Year Season Tickets Own Name Sponsorship Pay Structure Bespoke Shirt Designer These are just a few of the strange things we've had to hear. Why can't we just do things the same way as every other club? This.......the stuff that gets implemented at our club doesn’t even reach the boardroom at professionally run outfits. It’s hair-brained, cheap, backwards sh!te that diminishes us. Im actually amazed the EFL haven’t stepped in on our attempts to sell tickets years in advanced it’s essentially a Ponzi Scheme.... Edited December 7, 2020 by Morepork 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Are the payments coming from two separate sources? Like does the £7k come from SWFC then the rest from Mr D Chansiri? If so (and even if not) what's the benefit? The obvious thing seems like PAYE but surely he can't just give them a lump of their wage without still being liable for the various deductions? Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 06/12/2020 at 15:02, jonnyowl said: I bet they've all got night jobs with Thai Union Group packing John West tuna into tins for £30k a month! All to get round FFP! TUG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manwithastick Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, sonofbert2 said: Even if true, I would love to get demotivated on a guaranteed 7k a week MONTH during a global pandemic. Just got back from church having prayed for their poor souls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Manwithastick said: Even better! - Performance related pay.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Has it been confirmed that this has happened on more than the one occasion that was reported in June/July. Where Garry Monk stated that it was a one off situation that had been rectified. https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/garry-monk-sheffield-wednesday-players-wages-2909659 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Let's hope this is not another 6 pointer scam. Surely , it swerves both FFP and EFL's third party payment rules? Nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Wouldn't surprise me. Under DC the club is run in peculiar ways. I'd prefer to be run professionally, but it is what it is, we're just a rich mans hobby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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