jacko1992 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, mcmigo said: TP is no upgrade on the previous manager. He will, of course, be much more forgiven for goalkeeper mistakes, a bad squad missing a good striker, Van Aken and his clown feet. He will be excused for not winning as they are not 'his' players. He is much better at interviews than Monk so will be praised for his honesty. You don't watch us play, do you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, jacko1992 said: You don't watch us play, do you? It's the results that matter not how you play That's what we were told when Monk was in charge anyway 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 I am a little disappointed we have not had the are Manager bounce we normally get when changing managers. Think I would give Pulis 6 to 10 so far. To be honest not seen that much difference from Monk. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaping Lannys Perm Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Got us organised and stopped the slide. Most of those games we'd probably expect to lose on league placings and Monk would have lost all 4. Now he needs to build on that and start winning. This is the bit that worries me with Pulis. I'd expect him to organise us and stop us losing many, but can he get us scoring and winning? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Pulis is always going to split the fan base but I am being won over. He gets a ‘B’ from me. The goal in yesterday’s game showed to me how we can get goals with direct but not long ball attacks. I do hold him responsible for the Red in some regards because Shaw is his player and looked a bit wild in the last game. Coaches have to coach players, not just tactics. But the response to the red and how he changed the game (yes Double Defence!) actually worked! He had a plan, and executed it. Even it it hadn’t worked he knew what he would put in place. But the number one for me is I really believe we will get better. I just don’t think we would have improved under Monk. I think Monk had a Strategy but couldn’t implement Tactics. It was like he couldn’t get the players to do the things that were in his head. I think Garry Monk will return elsewhere as a better coach but his race was run here. Pulis can get the players to do things in his head. You may not like what’s in his head but he can transfer it to the pitch! Also the zero bullshiz approach meets with my approval. Hell, he might not even keep us up, he might even leave if Chansiri and the mysterious ‘recruitment team’ don’t give him what he wants. But I think he will. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Getting us organised in defence and tougher to beat is a sensible first step. Making us more offensive should be the next, playing 5-5-0 and draws will only get us relegated (not that I'm thinking he'll continue this way... yet). Tough to make a judgment yet on the latter when we're reduced to 10 men as we've been in two of the matches too; fancied us getting a 2nd goal yesterday over Reading equalising up until that red card, so there were signs of us making the effort. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack-Abusi Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Mixture as yeah we looks a bit more resolute and organised, but attacking wise we are still trash 1 shot on target recently and that was the Reach goal. That is criminal. We need to start getting some wins in. Won't survive drawing every game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Trying to get through to the January window by defending and going for draws will use up so many valuable games We need wins and fast Time's running out 1 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, mcmigo said: TP is no upgrade on the previous manager. He will, of course, be much more forgiven for goalkeeper mistakes, a bad squad missing a good striker, Van Aken and his clown feet. He will be excused for not winning as they are not 'his' players. He is much better at interviews than Monk so will be praised for his honesty. You really do talk some utter utter crap. Not sure if we’re being whooshed Monk would never have changed things at half time and reshaped us like that. He wouldn’t even know how to Edited December 3, 2020 by FreshOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, Leaping Lannys Perm said: Got us organised and stopped the slide. Most of those games we'd probably expect to lose on league placings and Monk would have lost all 4. Now he needs to build on that and start winning. This is the bit that worries me with Pulis. I'd expect him to organise us and stop us losing many, but can he get us scoring and winning? Monk was sacked after 4 points from 6 , and 2 clean sheets. Monk would have been expected to lose against Bournemouth on league places but won. what 'slide' ? we got 10 points in Monks last week in charge. Are we more organised now than we were in those 2 matches? If yes, why are we conceding goals now and not in those 2 games? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: You really do talk some utter utter crap. Not sure if we’re being whooshed Monk would never have changed things at half time and reshaped us like that. He wouldn’t even know how to Pulis has less points in 4 games than Monk had in his last two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, mcmigo said: Pulis has less points in 4 games than Monk had in his last two. Monk was gifted 6 points you cretin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, FreshOwl said: Monk was gifted 6 points you cretin Monk - 4 points from last two games Pulis - 3 points from first 4 games 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: Monk was gifted 6 points you cretin Oh dear 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, mcmigo said: Monk - 4 points from last two games Pulis - 3 points from first 4 games Monk - 0 points from Wycombe, Luton & Rotherham Monk - 4 pts from last 6 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, mcmigo said: Pulis has less points in 4 games than Monk had in his last two. This is pure fact Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, FreshOwl said: Monk - 0 points from Wycombe, Luton & Rotherham Monk - 4 pts from last 6 games If you're going to extend the number of games and points we should also include Monk's first half of last season Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: Monk - 0 points from Wycombe, Luton & Rotherham Monk - 4 pts from last 6 games Monk league win percentage this season - 28% Pulis league win percentage this season - 0% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: If you're going to extend the number of games and points we should also include Monk's first half of last season That’s exactly what you’re doing! Picking a selection of results (his last 2 games) Is being a WUM the nee craze? Because none of you would be saying this if we were talking about Wednesday in a pub. It would all be that monks poo and we’re glad to get rid, Pulis will have us more solid etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, FreshOwl said: That’s exactly what you’re doing! Picking a selection of results (his last 2 games) You mean the most recent form? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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