Hack-Abusi Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Could be even worse summer than one we've just had Shambolic handling in the transfer market from day dot Foóking criminal Left us right in the mire potentially 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Won’t be many of these left under Tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, billyblack said: Here is the list of players currently out of contract next summer Reach Westwood Rhodes Bannan Lees Harris Odubajo Pelupessey Van Aken Penney Uroghide Brennan Shaw Render Ben Hughes Leaving us Borner Palmer Luongo Iorfa Dunkly Wildsmith Dawson 5 a side anyone The lot can leave for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, ArmchairOwl said: Not bothered about any of them tbh, glad to see the back of them. Id like to keep Shaw and Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not welsh owl Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 depends what league we're in, personally i'd tell pulis to build his own team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 It’s not a bad position for Pulis. These players have to earn a new contract and/or make themselves attractive to suitor clubs. Though from what we’ve seen over his first three games he gets brilliant effort from players anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themagiccap Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I'd be tempted to give a Hughes a run in the squad on the right side to see if he's up to much, same with Urgohide. Shaw is one to keep too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 It's easy to say "good, chance to rebuild" but as we saw at the end of last season, players who have nothing to play for, don't tend to play too well. If the club make it clear they won't be resigning then basically the majority of ANY first XI we put out will know they are down the road. Real incentive to keep us up! 1 Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, mattitheowl said: It's easy to say "good, chance to rebuild" but as we saw at the end of last season, players who have nothing to play for, don't tend to play too well. If the club make it clear they won't be resigning then basically the majority of ANY first XI we put out will know they are down the road. Real incentive to keep us up! This 100% That's what is worrying me. Not so much now but let's say we move into the last 5 games and we are desperate for points. Will a player who is leaving really risk all by winning 50/50s. Will they really care that much? It's human nature to subconsciously look to the future and self preservation. I don't like having such a high percentage of our first team all out of contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 hours ago, RuncornOwl94 said: Sixteen million pounds there in Rhodes, Reach & Van Aken. There isn't one name on that list I'd keep on either, another example of just how poorly run this football club is under Chansiri. Sadly, Rhodes alone has probably cost us 16m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Yet another sad indictment of this chairman's tenure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Wouldn't keep any of them. We will be relying on Pulis is the loan market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwellOwl Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 hours ago, billyblack said: Here is the list of players currently out of contract next summer Reach Westwood Rhodes Bannan Lees Harris Odubajo Pelupessey Van Aken Penney Uroghide Brennan Shaw Render Ben Hughes Leaving us Borner Palmer Luongo Iorfa Dunkly Wildsmith Dawson 5 a side anyone At this rate, the club will have to call on fans to play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Reach Westwood rhodes bannan Lees must be £110k to 130k a week saved there. big chance for Pulis to bring in players on Bosmans. Get some points in the bag and start planning a summer recruit drive in early 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Keep Bannan, Lees and Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Owl Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 19 hours ago, billyblack said: Here is the list of players currently out of contract next summer Reach Westwood Rhodes Bannan Lees Harris Odubajo Pelupessey Van Aken Penney Uroghide Brennan Shaw Render Ben Hughes Leaving us Borner Palmer Luongo Iorfa Dunkly Wildsmith Dawson 5 a side anyone Depending we're still in the Championship I would keep Lees, Penney, Urhoghide and Shaw also maybe Render and Hughes and loan them out. If we don't resign any, it leaves us with the players you mentioned plus FDB and maybe Windass, Paterson, Hunt, Grant, Waldock, Adedoyin and Hagan? So 8 players, including 2 GK's and maybe up to 15 players. The season after we will only have Dawson and FDB under contract and maybe Windass, Paterson, Hunt, Grant, Waldock, Adedoyin and Hagan? So 2 players, including 1 GK and maybe up to 9 players. Why us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 18 hours ago, room0035 said: I was saying this in the last transfer window either resign Lees, Bannan and Reach to new deals or get rid, instead we did the tried and tested failure that we have seen under DC for the last 5 years, let then all leave for free after another season of excessive wages for doing next to nothing on the pitch. Penney, Urhoghide, Brennan, Shaw, Hunt are meant to be the future of the club yet we are so short sighted and we offer then one year deals then give out 2-4 year deals for players clearly over the hill, past it and too expensive. Westwood and Rhodes will barely play this season but between them that will be another £3m wasted in salaries. I don't think DC could run a bath let alone a football club. Spot On: No forward planning, even if a player isnt in your plans you can extend the contract to make them a more valuable asset to sell. We really are pathetic. Anyway: Reach - New Deal (cant let 5million walk for free) Westwood - Leave Rhodes - Leave Bannan - New Deal Lees - Leave Harris - Leave Odubajo - New Deal Pelupessey - Leave Van Aken - Leave Penney - New Deal Uroghide - New Deal (loan out asap) Brennan - New Deal (loan out asap) Shaw - New Deal Render - New Deal (loan out) Ben Hughes - New Deal (loan out asap) Kachunga - Leave Leaving us Borner - Keep Palmer - Sell Luongo - Keep Iorfa - Keep Dunkly - No idea Wildsmith - Keep Dawson - Sell Windass - Unsure Paterson - Unsure 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Owl Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said: Reach - New Deal (cant let 5million walk for free) Rhodes - Leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandwhitematt Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 16 hours ago, mattitheowl said: It's easy to say "good, chance to rebuild" but as we saw at the end of last season, players who have nothing to play for, don't tend to play too well. If the club make it clear they won't be resigning then basically the majority of ANY first XI we put out will know they are down the road. Real incentive to keep us up! Not sure its as cut and dry as that, it depends on the player's personality and also the manager's motivational abilities. Fox and Fletcher for example, would have known in plenty of time before last season ended, even if only informally, that the deals they were going to get offered weren't going to be acceptable to them and they would be leaving. They were playing for contracts elsewhere for most of last season in order to remain at Championship level. Most of the others who didn't put the yards in either ended up having to go abroad, drop down divisions, or were on natural declines due to age and injury anyway. That should be a very recent warning sign to any players with deals coming to an end here. There is a good amount of people on that list who will need to put in a decent effort this season to secure contracts at this level next year, and its a different context now what with clubs cutting back to Covid. The ones who phone it in will already have been weeded out by Pulis anyway, and I suspect he has the man management skills to coax the rest into playing to earn a new deal here or elsewhere. I think last year's issue was more the previous manager being unable to do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, blueandwhitematt said: Not sure its as cut and dry as that, it depends on the player's personality and also the manager's motivational abilities. Fox and Fletcher for example, would have known in plenty of time before last season ended, even if only informally, that the deals they were going to get offered weren't going to be acceptable to them and they would be leaving. They were playing for contracts elsewhere for most of last season in order to remain at Championship level. Most of the others who didn't put the yards in either ended up having to go abroad, drop down divisions, or were on natural declines due to age and injury anyway. That should be a very recent warning sign to any players with deals coming to an end here. There is a good amount of people on that list who will need to put in a decent effort this season to secure contracts at this level next year, and its a different context now what with clubs cutting back to Covid. The ones who phone it in will already have been weeded out by Pulis anyway, and I suspect he has the man management skills to coax the rest into playing to earn a new deal here or elsewhere. I think last year's issue was more the previous manager being unable to do that. More to the point, we need to make sure we can get better players in before a lot of those decisions are made With every clear out, we seem to slip further down the table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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