Hitcat Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Even tougher with you in charge Tony.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 I thought Pulis spoke well and was realistic about the challenge he faces - almost to the point of making me feel he’s having second thoughts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 Just now, Steve Down South said: I thought Pulis spoke well and was realistic about the challenge he faces - almost to the point of making me feel he’s having second thoughts. Ha ha I know what you mean I wonder why it’s hit him today though? We were up against a decent side and kept a clean sheet Seems a strange time to be coming out with a sense of realisation Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifax Owls Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 At least he didn’t say we need to ‘build back better’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 Lets just pray Pulis doesn’t have a boyhood club that needs a manager 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 His last two jobs at West Brom and Boro must have been tough gigs aswell. I hope he turns it around but it’s over 6 years since he did a decent job anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 "if we can possibly get some more quality in " .........i dont like the if bit ,makes it sound like they may not be much to spend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, torryowl said: "if we can possibly get some more quality in " .........i dont like the if bit ,makes it sound like they may not be much to spend. Its more concerning that he used the word ‘more’ 1 4 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Be Back Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I'm watching that and I'm thinking he may not be our manager for much longer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley8 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 He knows we need to score goals and they are low on confidence in front of goal. So why be so defensive so we only have a few chances in the game. They need the most chances they can get. We have not been that bad defensively this season when you take in to account we having scored hardly any goals. We need to be in the final third not all stood in front of ours just frustrating the opposition. When you don't have quality in front of goal who take a chance, you need to create as many chances as you can if you get a couple then you can shut up shop if it looks like turning. Not play like that and try steal one when you can't score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 56 minutes ago, pat blondeau said: His last two jobs at West Brom and Boro must have been tough gigs aswell. I hope he turns it around but it’s over 6 years since he did a decent job anywhere Look at West Brom though.. they’re level is basically somewhere between 17th premier league and 6th in the championship. Other than under Pulis when he got them top 10, how many seasons have they finished outside of that recently. He basically got them to outperform for a year or so then they dropped back to their level and he quit/got pushed before they got relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, LondonOwl313 said: Look at West Brom though.. they’re level is basically somewhere between 17th premier league and 6th in the championship. Other than under Pulis when he got them top 10, how many seasons have they finished outside of that recently. He basically got them to outperform for a year or so then they dropped back to their level and he quit/got pushed before they got relegated Just checked and since 2000 they’ve had only 5 seasons where they’ve finished outside of 17th PL to 6th Champ. That’s a remarkable level of consistency really.. 5 promotions and 4 relegations in 20 years. Probably quite exciting supporting them. The 5 seasons outside of that they finished between 11th and 14th in the PL 3 times, and 10th twice, the second of which was under Pulis. So he guided them to their joint highest finish since 1981, yet people think he did a bad job there. Its only Boro where I’d say he probably underachieved a bit, particularly first season before they sold their best players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, LondonOwl313 said: Look at West Brom though.. they’re level is basically somewhere between 17th premier league and 6th in the championship. Other than under Pulis when he got them top 10, how many seasons have they finished outside of that recently. He basically got them to outperform for a year or so then they dropped back to their level and he quit/got pushed before they got relegated They finished 8th in the premier league in 2013 under Clarke so I wouldn’t say he ever got them to outperform. When they sacked him they were on the verge of relegation. Ask any West Brom fan about Pulis and see what they say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, pat blondeau said: They finished 8th in the premier league in 2013 under Clarke so I wouldn’t say he ever got them to outperform. When they sacked him they were on the verge of relegation. Ask any West Brom fan about Pulis and see what they say Lol I just spent about 15 mins reading through all their finishes for the last 40 years and somehow missed that one. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_West_Bromwich_Albion_F.C._seasons Ok so was their second highest finish.. but I still think it’s a good return results wise. I can imagine that for a club like them their fans probably have a different attitude to what we’d have. They probably don’t fear relegation because they never seem to have much of a problem going back up with the 5 promotions in 20 years. And the style would grind you down over years where you’re trying to push outperformance from a poor group of players. For us though if we’d have been up there I think we’d fear the drop more given it’s been 21 years and counting without a single promotion.. so our tolerance for his football is probably higher. Let’s be honest, last three games have been an upgrade on most of Monk’s time and we still haven’t threatened to score at all. But we haven’t been outplayed and don’t look like conceding many either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, LondonOwl313 said: Lol I just spent about 15 mins reading through all their finishes for the last 40 years and somehow missed that one. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_West_Bromwich_Albion_F.C._seasons Ok so was their second highest finish.. but I still think it’s a good return results wise. I can imagine that for a club like them their fans probably have a different attitude to what we’d have. They probably don’t fear relegation because they never seem to have much of a problem going back up with the 5 promotions in 20 years. And the style would grind you down over years where you’re trying to push outperformance from a poor group of players. For us though if we’d have been up there I think we’d fear the drop more given it’s been 21 years and counting without a single promotion.. so our tolerance for his football is probably higher. Let’s be honest, last three games have been an upgrade on most of Monk’s time and we still haven’t threatened to score at all. But we haven’t been outplayed and don’t look like conceding many either The last 3 games have just been a continuation on what Monk was doing for me. We’ve picked up 2 points and scored 1 goal in 3 games which we’d have probably done under Monk. Possession stats under Pulis are 26% at Preston, 36% at Swansea and 37% against Stoke. We haven’t had more than 5 shots in a game yet under Pulis. We’ve only had 2 shots on target in 3 games. Maybe he’ll grind the points out to get us out of it but it’s going to be ugly. I’d have liked to have seen a change in the style of play after the Jos and Monk dross we’ve been served up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, pat blondeau said: The last 3 games have just been a continuation on what Monk was doing for me. We’ve picked up 2 points and scored 1 goal in 3 games which we’d have probably done under Monk. Possession stats under Pulis are 26% at Preston, 36% at Swansea and 37% against Stoke. We haven’t had more than 5 shots in a game yet under Pulis. We’ve only had 2 shots on target in 3 games. Maybe he’ll grind the points out to get us out of it but it’s going to be ugly. I’d have liked to have seen a change in the style of play after the Jos and Monk dross we’ve been served up I think Preston was a bit of a write off given the two mistakes in that game.. couldn’t get much of a feel for it. Swansea and Stoke will both finish top 8 I think so good points. Looking at the fixtures it’s more of the same required next few games.. could do with picking up points and maybe sneak a win somewhere. But then most of the games between mid December and mid January are against the weak teams. Huddersfield, Barnsley, Coventry (twice), Forest, Derby, Blackburn, Wycombe. 8 games out of 9 against that lot with only Boro from the top half. We really do need to be winning some of those or we’re down. Will be happy with this attritional football if we pick up some draws against Reading and Norwich as long as we open up a bit more and win a decent % of those other games after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I like what he has to say. Totally realistic. Come January he will get some signings and we will be more effective. Defensively we are already more resilient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Pulis must have something up his sleeve. Keeps mentioning the quality we need. In our position Quality only arrives in pairs and priles quality players tend to give you the brush off if only one has an invite in our position. So come January I would expect two or three to arrive ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Lets just pray Pulis doesn’t have a boyhood club that needs a manager What? In Wales? Nobody would believe him! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 A message for the chairman, I'll wager. It's inconceivable that Pulis wouldn't know what he was taking on. He's as sharp as a sh*thouse rat. The joke is that our results against the likes of Swansea and Stoke were no better under Carlos when we had a good team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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