adelphi1867 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, SallyCinnamon said: https://the72.co.uk/202442/we-werent-playing-the-same-ex-swansea-city-man-takes-aim-at-recently-sacked-sheffield-wednesday-boss/amp/?__twitter_impression=true Echoes his time at Wednesday too. Started off well making us hard to beat, but was found wanting by not being able to implement a clear style and identity to the way his teams play football. Very limited manager. WTF!. He's gone , left, move on ffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Completely agree with this. Bruce had put some solid foundations in and Monk destroyed that and implemented that losing mentality back into the players and club. Steve Bruce solid foundations - that is a joke. Steve Bruce was the ultimate cowboy builder. He rocked up a month late, got paid a load of money, half built a shed before disappearing , taking his entire workforce with him, one week before the start of the season. The man left us with an estate agent as our only first team coach going into a new season. He also gave our 3rd choice goalie a massive new contract as a farewell present. He built the square root of zip all. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, SallyCinnamon said: https://the72.co.uk/202442/we-werent-playing-the-same-ex-swansea-city-man-takes-aim-at-recently-sacked-sheffield-wednesday-boss/amp/?__twitter_impression=true Echoes his time at Wednesday too. Started off well making us hard to beat, but was found wanting by not being able to implement a clear style and identity to the way his teams play football. Very limited manager. Despite him constantly banging on about having clarity at the club and a team to be proud of, he turned out to be another manager not up to the task and actually made us embarrassing to watch. He’ll be very lucky to get another crack at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, adelphi1867 said: WTF!. He's gone , left, move on ffs. Was the thread title too confusing for you? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, mcmigo said: Steve Bruce solid foundations - that is a joke. Steve Bruce was the ultimate cowboy builder. He rocked up a month late, got paid a load of money, half built a shed before disappearing , taking his entire workforce with him, one week before the start of the season. The man left us with an estate agent as our only first team coach going into a new season. He also gave our 3rd choice goalie a massive new contract as a farewell present. He built the square root of zip all. Nailed it 1 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, mcmigo said: Steve Bruce solid foundations - that is a joke. Steve Bruce was the ultimate cowboy builder. He rocked up a month late, got paid a load of money, half built a shed before disappearing , taking his entire workforce with him, one week before the start of the season. The man left us with an estate agent as our only first team coach going into a new season. He also gave our 3rd choice goalie a massive new contract as a farewell present. He built the square root of zip all. He brought in Iorfa. That is literally the only thing he did during his time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robowl4life Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 41 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Yeah but they were part of operation CLEAR AAAAHHHHHHT so that mattered little 'Hutch' 'Westy' 'Nando' etc Wish he didn’t bother with clear aaaaahhhht if I knew what mess we’d be in. Kill for a player of FF quality right now. I draw the line at big Dave though. Can’t we go get Lee signed back up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, robowl4life said: Wish he didn’t bother with clear aaaaahhhht if I knew what mess we’d be in. We had to mate - FFP n all that If anything we've not cleared enough off the wage bill still Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robowl4life Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: We had to mate - FFP n all that If anything we've not cleared enough off the wage bill still Yeah true. We’re lacking so much in quality and attacking options though. League one beckons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Any manager is going to struggle with our financial situation and a owner that thinks he knows better than everyone Good luck Tone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, mcmigo said: Steve Bruce solid foundations - that is a joke. Steve Bruce was the ultimate cowboy builder. He rocked up a month late, got paid a load of money, half built a shed before disappearing , taking his entire workforce with him, one week before the start of the season. The man left us with an estate agent as our only first team coach going into a new season. He also gave our 3rd choice goalie a massive new contract as a farewell present. He built the square root of zip all. A better manager would have built on what Bruce put in place at the club. Monk took it backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, robowl4life said: Wish he didn’t bother with clear aaaaahhhht if I knew what mess we’d be in. Kill for a player of FF quality right now. I draw the line at big Dave though. Can’t we go get Lee signed back up? Apart from brief flashes, FF wasn't a player of FF's quality after that first season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: A better manager would have built on what Bruce put in place at the club. Monk took it backwards. Again - what things did Bruce put in place? He blooded no young players (Monk did), his signings were at best mixed based on the evidence of their performances since we signed them (Iorfa - excellent. Luongo - good but frequently injured, Borner - OK. Moses - poor, Harris - poor). He signed our 3rd choice goalie to a gazillion pound contract, and if he did put any structure in place on coaching, he took it all away when he scarpered off to the bar codes. If anything you can argue Jos did more for putting foundations in place - ie by blooding players from the youth team in order to prepare them for first team football when the inevitable cloth cutting happened when it was clear FFP would be a problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, robowl4life said: Wish he didn’t bother with clear aaaaahhhht if I knew what mess we’d be in. Kill for a player of FF quality right now. I draw the line at big Dave though. Can’t we go get Lee signed back up? FF - a charlatan of the highest order. Nuhiu - our second highest goalscorer since David Hirst. Should never be mentioned in the same breath. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 40 minutes ago, mcmigo said: Again - what things did Bruce put in place? He blooded no young players (Monk did), his signings were at best mixed based on the evidence of their performances since we signed them (Iorfa - excellent. Luongo - good but frequently injured, Borner - OK. Moses - poor, Harris - poor). He signed our 3rd choice goalie to a gazillion pound contract, and if he did put any structure in place on coaching, he took it all away when he scarpered off to the bar codes. If anything you can argue Jos did more for putting foundations in place - ie by blooding players from the youth team in order to prepare them for first team football when the inevitable cloth cutting happened when it was clear FFP would be a problem. What young players have been successfully blooded into the first team? Which ones have become valuable assets to the first team squad and which ones have we sold for profit? I’ve seen some crap on Owlstalk in my lifetime but Monk and Jos blooding in young players is one of the worst I’ve seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 42 minutes ago, mcmigo said: Again - what things did Bruce put in place? He blooded no young players (Monk did), his signings were at best mixed based on the evidence of their performances since we signed them (Iorfa - excellent. Luongo - good but frequently injured, Borner - OK. Moses - poor, Harris - poor). He signed our 3rd choice goalie to a gazillion pound contract, and if he did put any structure in place on coaching, he took it all away when he scarpered off to the bar codes. If anything you can argue Jos did more for putting foundations in place - ie by blooding players from the youth team in order to prepare them for first team football when the inevitable cloth cutting happened when it was clear FFP would be a problem. Westwood was first choice at the time, so again a bit of an inaccurate statement. Borner and Harris both excellent at the start of the season when Bruce’s way of doing things were still in place. Monk comes in and they soon turn crap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: Westwood was first choice at the time, so again a bit of an inaccurate statement. Borner and Harris both excellent at the start of the season when Bruce’s way of doing things were still in place. Monk comes in and they soon turn crap. Bruce’s way of doing things? harris and borner were at the club for about 2 weeks under Steve Bruce and never played a league game under him . Do you think monk and Bullen put on Bruce masks for 3 months, put a sack of potatoes down the front of their training tops and regailed the squad with tales of winning the league at Man Utd ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, mcmigo said: Bruce’s way of doing things? harris and borner were at the club for about 2 weeks under Steve Bruce and never played a league game under him . Do you think monk and Bullen put on Bruce masks for 3 months, put a sack of potatoes down the front of their training tops and regailed the squad with tales of winning the league at Man Utd ? Bullen went on record to saying that he continued to take training, tactics and approach to games the exact same way as Bruce did. A couple of weeks under Monk and Harris turned into Wade Small mark 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, mcmigo said: Steve Bruce solid foundations - that is a joke. Steve Bruce was the ultimate cowboy builder. He rocked up a month late, got paid a load of money, half built a shed before disappearing , taking his entire workforce with him, one week before the start of the season. The man left us with an estate agent as our only first team coach going into a new season. He also gave our 3rd choice goalie a massive new contract as a farewell present. He built the square root of zip all. Speaking of foundations, I was told that Bruce requested the training ground building be drastically altered and changed (which we did)...he then pi55ed off 5 minutes later. Edited November 25, 2020 by SiJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhollywood Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just a general comment on the Wednesday managerial situation. We've had 15 in 20 years now. I just want someone to be given some time to build something. We're stuck in this cycle of managers clearing out other managers signings and constantly treading water. It's boring. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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