Jackie Sewell Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 When i was playing for the school in the 60s, if the goalie kicked the ball out of his hands from the edge of his box, everybody would let it bounce before they played it.Thats how hard and heavy the balls were. I remember talking to Johnny Quinn a few years ago, and saying i'd scored a few goals from the edge of the box, every one all along the ground. I never saw anyone shoot over the bar from that range. Obviously the pros could but even so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Yeah... COURSE you were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Neil, Neil orange peel, I never said anything of the sort. You don't need to - the readers can judge for themselves Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Has there been any studies on heading the ball and dementia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Great. So we've employed a hoof ball manager that hoofs it out of play or straight to the opposition *cancels todays IFollow stream* The facts would seem to contradict this interpretation. 16 Championship sides played more long-balls than Pulis' 'Boro in his last season there. 15 teams had a worse success rate with long-balls than them. It would suggest they were far from the most direct side in the division that season, but they were pretty decent at it when they did go long, in comparison to the rest of the division, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Gary Lineker famously used to avoid heading the ball unless he was gonna score. Perhaps if he’d headed it a bit more it would have knocked some sense into him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Yeah... COURSE you were I will put that was down to M1 envy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willow Owl Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 47 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: On his own maybe - if it was an isolated thing However look at the World Cup winning team of 1966 that he was a part of - and look how many have died from brain damage Fair point, it’s a difficult one but I think we need more research in the era’s after before changing one of the major things in the sport we love. It’s in danger of losing its identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Willow Owl said: It’s in danger of losing its identity. I think that's an emotional blackmail comment that has no substance to it It's meaningless Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 If heading is banned from football then surely boxing would have to be banned altogether. if you play a contact sport there are risks which you evaluate whether to take or not. I still play and I still head the ball. That’s my choice. There are plenty of other sports out there these day where you don’t have to head a ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 46 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Great. So we've employed a hoof ball manager that hoofs it out of play or straight to the opposition *cancels todays IFollow stream* In fairness, it’s highly unlikely our players will play a long ball low enough for anyone to head it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Jack the Hat said: There are plenty of other sports out there these day where you don’t have to head a ball. Which proves heading in football is unneccesary Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 hours ago, owls-swfc said: There is obviously a link to dementia and heading a football (similar to what you might expect in boxing)... However, the players in the 50s and sixties were playing with totally different (bigger and heavier) balls, that got heavier throughout a match if saturated with rainwater..... Today's balls a smaller and lighter and don't absorb water... You would expect a lower risk of long term damage although still a risk of course. Would not want to get my head onto one of Bannan’s laser-precise Mach 10 delivered corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Which proves heading in football is unneccesary Does nothing of the sort, other sports don't call for heading. Cricket, tennis, bowling, etc don't really lend themselves to heading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Does nothing of the sort, other sports don't call for heading. EXACTLY Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I think that's an emotional blackmail comment that has no substance to it It's meaningless 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Which proves heading in football is unneccesary Totally disagree with both your comments. It’s a valid opinion not emotional blackmail. There are far more head injuries in Rugby which is why I prefer football. By your reckoning boxing and rugby should be banned completely. Whilst I acknowledge the sentiment I believe it a step too far. It’s becoming a non contact sport as it is and was clearly not intended to be. What evidence do we have on the impact of modern lighter football? Not much I wager. If you are concerned about the effects of heading a ball then either don’t head it or don’t play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: EXACTLY Football does though, you use every part of your body to play the game, that's one of the beauties of the game. Anyway off to Meadowhall now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jack the Hat said: If you are concerned about the effects of heading a ball then either don’t head it or don’t play football. Not QUITE sure that's the point of this discussion Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 It’s pretty easy for a football fan to suggest they just get on with it. We’re not the ones making hundreds of headers week in week out. I’m just waiting for someone to bring wages into the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbelly Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jack the Hat said: If heading is banned from football then surely boxing would have to be banned altogether. if you play a contact sport there are risks which you evaluate whether to take or not. I still play and I still head the ball. That’s my choice. There are plenty of other sports out there these day where you don’t have to head a ball. Boxing is a brutal Neanderthal sport that is almost unrivalled in its gratuitous violence from one human being into another. However, despite the numerous examples of long term brain damage in its participants it’s generally accepted that this is violence between two consenting adults. Heading footballs, until this point, was not seen as a risk to its participants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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