sheriwozgod Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Pick an all time England squad of 23 that is allowed for major tournaments from players you have seen in your lifetime. Gordon Banks Peter Shilton Ray Clemence Gary Neville Sol Campbell Bobby Moore Ledley King Rio Ferdinand Ashley Cole Kevin Beattie David Beckham Bryan Robson Glenn Hoddle Paul Gascoigne Paul Scholes Bobby Charlton Lawrie Cunningham Gary Lineker Michael Owen Wayne Rooney Alan Shearer Kevin Keegan Harry Kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Good idea For ones that have played since I was born, I would go; - Seaman Robinson Martyn G.Neville Ferdinand Campbell Adams Terry A. Cole Le Saux Waddle Beckham Gascoigne Scholes Gerrard Lampard Batty Anderton Shearer Rooney Owen Kane Sheringham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 hours ago, markg said: Good idea For ones that have played since I was born, I would go; - Seaman Robinson Martyn G.Neville Ferdinand Campbell Adams Terry A. Cole Le Saux Waddle Beckham Gascoigne Scholes Gerrard Lampard Batty Anderton Shearer Rooney Owen Kane Sheringham Batty? I assume you mean Nora as you can't possibly mean David! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Ever the pessimist said: Batty? I assume you mean Nora as you can't possibly mean David! Think I was one of the only people that rated him. I thought he was fantastic at what he did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Ever the pessimist said: Batty? I assume you mean Nora as you can't possibly mean David! Great assist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Players I've actually seen a bit of Seaman Martyn James G Neville TAA Campbell Ferdinand Terry Adams A Cole Pearce Beckham Hargreaves Lampard Scholes Gerrard Gazza J. Cole McManaman Sterling Shearer Kane Sheringham/Owen I'd tKe all 5 fwds if I could leave James at home and go 2 gks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningaround Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Shilton Seaman Le Saux A Cole Adams Terry R Ferdinand G Neville J Cole Scholes Gerrard Lampard Becks Gazza Shearer Owen Rooney Kane Sorry I just know 96 and beyond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningaround Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 hours ago, markg said: Think I was one of the only people that rated him. I thought he was fantastic at what he did great at what he did tbh, a team player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Before I submit mine, are we talking about their performances for England, or overall? Barnes for example was brilliant for Liverpool but mostly disappointing for England: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 15 hours ago, Ever the pessimist said: Before I submit mine, are we talking about their performances for England, or overall? Barnes for example was brilliant for Liverpool but mostly disappointing for England: Just England........................thats why i didnt pick Gerrard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 OK then: D Seaman P Shilton D James A Cole G Neville S Campbell R Ferdinand S Pearce T Butcher T Alexander-Arnold T Adams C Waddle F Lampard P Gascoigne B Robson O Hargreaves D Platt D Anderton T Sheringham G Lineker M Owen H Kane A Shearer Midfield is clearly where so many of our disappointments have been. So many great club players have not performed for England (Barnes, Gerard, Scholes, McManaman), even including Lampard was a stretch. We have had a paucity of quality wide players too in my 30 plus years of watching, hence Anderton's inclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Banks Shilton Seaman G Neville T Cooper P Neal ACole B Moore T Adams D Watson ( Rotherham / Sunderland ) S Pearce C Bell A Ball P Scholes P Gascoigne T Francis B Robson C Waddle J Greaves B Charlton K Keegan A Shearer W Rooney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greengrass Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Ever the pessimist said: OK then: D Seaman P Shilton D James A Cole G Neville S Campbell R Ferdinand S Pearce T Butcher T Alexander-Arnold T Adams C Waddle F Lampard P Gascoigne B Robson O Hargreaves D Platt D Anderton T Sheringham G Lineker M Owen H Kane A Shearer Midfield is clearly where so many of our disappointments have been. So many great club players have not performed for England (Barnes, Gerard, Scholes, McManaman), even including Lampard was a stretch. We have had a paucity of quality wide players too in my 30 plus years of watching, hence Anderton's inclusion. Decent choices but.......Owen Hargreaves ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 The only one i took a flier on was Lawrie Cunningham who only won a few caps but was a supremely gifted player who should have won many more than he did. Mind you , he wasn`t on his own during the 70,s , there were a whole raft of talented "maverick" style players who only got a tiny fraction of the caps they deserved. Rodney Marsh, Frank Worthington, Stan Bowles, Alan Hudson, Charlie George, Peter Osgood, Duncan McKenzie, Gordon Hill.........and yes......Tony Currie (i know he was from the dark side but to anyone too young to have seen him , he was a fantastic player) were all never trusted and Revie picked guys like Trevor Cherrie, Brian Greenhoff, David Johnson, Bob Latchford etc. All decent players but not a patch on the ones mentioned..............................and this was the era when we missed out on qualifying for TWO consecutive world cups..........................i wonder why ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, Greengrass said: Decent choices but.......Owen Hargreaves ? He was decent for England I thought. Toyed with Ince or Carrick. Don’t remember enough of Hoddle to legitimately include him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) Seaman Robinson Pickford G Neville TAA Ferdinand Terry Campbell Cole Chillwell Scholes Lampard Gerrard Sterling Hargreaves Henderson Beckham Gascoigne Rashford Rooney Shearer Kane Owen I'm surprised how many I picked from 2002 - 2006 squads that ultimately didn't achieve anything they were capable of! I then look at the current talent England have and think this is some of the best talent we've had in decades! and If I had to pick a team Id go Seaman TAA Ferdinand Terry Cole Scholes Hargreaves Gascoigne Sterling Kane Rooney Edited November 18, 2020 by jonnyowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Clemence Seaman Robinson Neville Neal Big Dave Watson Ferdinand Adams Campbell Pearce Cole Beckham Coppell Platt Robson Hoddle Scholes P.Barnes Owen Shearer Crouch Lineker Sheringham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Seaman Hart Robinson Cole Pearce Terry Adams Rio Campbell Neville Beckham Scholes Gascoigne Hargreaves Anderton Lampard Sterling Cole Rooney Owen Sheringham Shearer Kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Scholes would be a shoe in for a premier league squad. It’s terrible he wasn’t used properly for England. Sterling is another one who, as yet, hasn’t replicated his club form for England, although I personally still have doubts about his big game output even at club level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 On 18/11/2020 at 17:08, Ever the pessimist said: He was decent for England I thought. Toyed with Ince or Carrick. Don’t remember enough of Hoddle to legitimately include him. Hargreaves was decent but think I'd have gone for Ince, he was a better all round player and did a good job at Euro 96 and in qualifying through a tough group for World Cup 98. Shows the sparsity of defensive midfield options (and perhaps the unattractiveness of the position) that few have selected a defensive/holding midfielder at all. As for Scholes, his was brilliant in his early days for England and as you say wasted at international level after Keegan moved on, one of Svens biggest failures was trying to shoehorn him into a position that didn't suit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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