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5 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said:

It's because they had no option but to play them so would use to get playing with minor injuries etc.

 

OR maybe back then players wanted to fight for the cause and would play through the pain barrier. 

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4 minutes ago, S36 OWL said:

 

OR maybe back then players wanted to fight for the cause and would play through the pain barrier. 

Exactly and it was more accepted to play injured. These days players don't wanna play with little niggles that are probably in their minds

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11 hours ago, S36 OWL said:

 

OR maybe back then players wanted to fight for the cause and would play through the pain barrier. 

That's more knocks they would play through. They wouldn't  have played with calf/groin/hamstring tears or pulls.

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On 17/11/2020 at 14:34, Blatter said:

I always prefer the soft tissue.
Don’t see how it could cause injury. Far more soothing than the old shiny Izal.

Like wiping your arse on tracing paper! Cut to ribbons! 

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On 17/11/2020 at 15:53, Mick70 said:

Wonder if it could be the pitches at the training ground? We’ve had different managers. Different training methods, different coaches , different methods and finally different players? The only one constant is the pitches? Just a thought 

 

Are the pitches a constant, though. I have often wondered what sort of pitch is laid at the Training Ground? Are we training on a different surface to the Desso at Hillsborough? And is there any connection or discrepancy between the two?

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15 hours ago, daveyboy66 said:

Have a look at this...what do people think ?

 

 

 

Wow.  Thanks for sharing. It's a long watch but really interesting.

 

Initially thought it looked crap and with a Man U fan and Russian journalist behind it, has all hall marks of a conspiracy theory.  However, it's all pretty basic and believable.  Marginal gains has alot to answer for.  Interested in @scram

's view as always and someone with great insights into the game.

 

Doping/Cheating has some obvious extremes but there is a very murky gray area in the middle.

 

Like he says, ultimately managers/players/owners, and especially the fans, don't care if they win...sure we'd be the same.  

 

Also like his point re journalists are too much part of the system to either spot or say anything critical about it, as they risk their privledged positions.  Not just about this topic, you could argue that about all most all journalism now, sport and everywhere else.

 

The story about the gymnast at the end is so depressing, but totally believable.  Wonder who the footballer is he mentions.

 

Not read original article but off to dig it out now.

 

Other sad thing is, if your trying to link it to our injuries, we haven't had any of the performance benefits so we can't even cheat well 🤣

 

Thanks for posting

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