Dronfield Blue Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 minute ago, vulva said: I think he’s done a great job. Who do people think would do a better job? And if anyone says Eddie Howe I’m logging off. Eddie Waring. Handy for the World Cup later stages as 'It's a knockout' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Bielsa Next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, Adem Poric said: I dont think the current Brazil side are all that to be honest. Richarlison gets in their side. France are still the stand out squad in world football right now but we are getting there. We've still got Bellingham and Foden to come into our best side plus whoever out of Reece James, TAA or one of the other quality right backs come in for Walker. Id only really give the likes of Brazil & Argentina the nod due to Neymar & Messi, although the latter is ageing and collectively we could be stronger than both those countries. In all honesty I haven’t seen much of South American football recently but yeah France & Italy are slightly better right now but a lot can and probably will change between now and Qatar with our development 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, vulva said: Does he get any credit for winning all the others. Southgates win % is the best ever other than one manager. Bizarrely, that’s Capello. It’s not good winning all the others if you don’t win when it really matters. We should have won the Euro’s. It’s as simple as that. Yes Italy are a top team but, at 1-0 we froze. The same as we did 3 years prior. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, TheGaffer said: Thing is would we have got to where we did without that positive culture and environment? That's the catch 22 isn't it. Get rid for a better tactical manager, we've had plenty in the recent past, but lose the environment. Would worse environment better tactics produce better results? Who knows, history suggests not but this tournament in Qatar is certainly the last opportunity Southgate should be given unless he wins it. It’s a real tough one for sure. I’d probably still go for a new one because this group of players don’t look a group of egos and have a real spirit and professionalism. Although would that change if the FA axed Southgate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, vulva said: Next Conte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, 0wl18 said: It’s not good winning all the others if you don’t win when it really matters. We should have won the Euro’s. It’s as simple as that. Yes Italy are a top team but, at 1-0 we froze. The same as we did 3 years prior. Who would you have. Your standards seem incredibly demanding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, 0wl18 said: Conte The foreign manager thing hasn’t worked twice. Infact, it’s been a disaster both times. Capello had the best squad ever, and made a right ******** of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, vulva said: The foreign manager thing hasn’t worked twice. Infact, it’s been a disaster both times. Capello had the best squad ever, and made a right ******** of it. We currently have the best squad ever. That’s what everyone seems to be missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Not sure he’d be my pick but I think Lampard will be the next England manager. Brendon Rogers will get a mention as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 He's not going anywhere, even if you want him to. No FA would sack a manager who has got the national team to a semi final, a final and has all but qualified for another WC. Yes, he isn't perfect, but he's done more than enough to see it out until the end of Qatar 2022 imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 minute ago, SiJ said: He's not going anywhere, even if you want him to. No FA would sack a manager who has got the national team to a semi final, a final and has all but qualified for another WC. Yes, he isn't perfect, but he's done more than enough to see it out until the end of Qatar 2022 imo. He will go after that. Reckon he will do a Bobby Robson and work abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGaffer Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: It’s a real tough one for sure. I’d probably still go for a new one because this group of players don’t look a group of egos and have a real spirit and professionalism. Although would that change if the FA axed Southgate? Not sure who the options out there are in fairness. Dean Smith and the guy at Brighton are the highest placed English managers who play decent ish football. Dyche, not sure the players would take to him. Beyond that who do we have to turn to? Any English managers abroad at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 In some ways it feels like a defeat because of the lateness and nature of Poland’s goal. Mount in particular should have put his foot through it when he had the chance. A draw was the least we needed tonight and we got it. 7 points from the week and one foot in the finals IMO. I can see both sides of the argument with regards to Southgate. I do think he is a little short on where he needs to be and a little too bit pragmatic but he has a WC semi-final and a Euro runners-up place on his England CV. There’s only one manager at England level with a better one and that’s Sir Alf. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 That game will always haunt him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewswfc Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, vulva said: Not sure he’d be my pick but I think Lampard will be the next England manager. Brendon Rogers will get a mention as well. "Frank lampards england" can't fookïn wait 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, TheGaffer said: Not sure who the options out there are in fairness. Dean Smith and the guy at Brighton are the highest placed English managers who play decent ish football. Dyche, not sure the players would take to him. Beyond that who do we have to turn to? Any English managers abroad at the moment? No idea tbh, could see if Robbie Fowler’s still in India 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, Drewswfc said: "Frank lampards england" can't fookïn wait I’d probably have either tbh and would trust both to continue building the culture and environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 The next World Cup is a strange one both in terms of location and time of the year. It might throw up a really random winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, vulva said: The next World Cup is a strange one both in terms of location and time of the year. It might throw up a really random winner. Possible first winner from Africa or Asia maybe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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