markg Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Night King said: If it’s a direct choice between Foden and Grealish its Foden every time. He’s on a different level to Grealish. Grealish very much the flavour of the month, one of those players that becomes a better player by been out of the side. I disagree. Based on how England play, Grealish is a lot more suited. Even though I think that Foden is the better player of the two. Foden relies on high pressing, rotation of positions, quick one twos and drifting in to spaces. England don't play like that. When he receives the ball for England he has to either take his man on, which I think Grealish is better at, or lay it off to a nearby defensive midfielder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Grealish also wins you a lot of freekicks, which could easily lead to a goal. He's one of those players that when he's on the opposition team, frustrates the hell out of you with how much he throws himself on the floor, but when he's in your side you notice that it's actually very clever. He draws the foul, looks for the foul and wins it. Creating goal scoring opportunities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, CalmJimmers said: I would argue we haven't seen anything from Foden to keep his place, whereas Grealish set up the goal against CR. Think he deserves his place in the starting 11. He's also guaranteed to get fouled within range of their area for a set piece or three. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Sounds like Grealish might be off to Man City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 The best players hit the deck, because the best players get fouled a lot more than the average player. It grates me seeing people whinge about Grealish winning fouls. He’s fouled, so he goes down. Simple. This is football, all your favourite across the world do the exact same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoyBeevers Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: The best players hit the deck, because the best players get fouled a lot more than the average player. It grates me seeing people whinge about Grealish winning fouls. He’s fouled, so he goes down. Simple. This is football, all your favourite across the world do the exact same thing I don’t judge Grealish for winning free kicks. If anybody actually watches him for 10 minutes, the bloke gets lumps kicked out of him. He’ll drift across from left, to right, and through the middle of the park, and he gets smashed everywhere he goes. Control and touch are excellent, and he just draws rash tackles. That said, much as I’d love to watch Grealish as a fan, Foden is (IMO) a class above, or more. Grealish is an excellent footballer, but Foden is one of the few genuinely world class footballers around. We should be building a national team around him for the next decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Personally not seen anything from Foden in an England shirt If he is a genuinely world class footballer then he needs to start showing it Grealish been way better for England 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, scram said: Personally not seen anything from Foden in an England shirt If he is a genuinely world class footballer then he needs to start showing it Grealish been way better for England Foden is a very good player but when you have De Bruyne and Mahrez next to you - both absolutely world class players - the game can't be that hard. Not quite the same as having Declan Rice and a Leeds midfielder in the england team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Just now, mcmigo said: Foden is a very good player but when you have De Bruyne and Mahrez next to you - both absolutely world class players - the game can't be that hard. Not quite the same as having Declan Rice and a Leeds midfielder in the england team! Exavctly. For me Grealish is a better fit in the England system because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, mcmigo said: Foden is a very good player but when you have De Bruyne and Mahrez next to you - both absolutely world class players - the game can't be that hard. Not quite the same as having Declan Rice and a Leeds midfielder in the england team! True He could be one of those many players who cannot reproduce club form at international level due to the different dynamics of the players and playing styles But i don't see the reason to persist with a player when other players are showing so much more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Germany still have Muller, Gnarby, Goretzka, Havertz, Gosens & Kimmich. All class and all better than what we have. Kroos is only 31 too, Neuer still one of the best keepers around In hindsight I think we should try and pinch an early goal or two then close up shop. It’s dreadful to watch but if we play expansive we’ll get picked apart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: Germany still have Muller, Gnarby, Goretzka, Havertz, Gosens & Kimmich. All class and all better than what we have. Kroos is only 31 too, Neuer still one of the best keepers around In hindsight I think we should try and pinch an early goal or two then close up shop. It’s dreadful to watch but if we play expansive we’ll get picked apart About striking a balance. Sit too deep and just defend and we will eventually collapse imo. Agree on the quality of some of their players. Goretzka is coming off the bench for them atm ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 I've not really seen Haaland do much in the couple of times I've seen him so I put him into YouTube and the thing that caught my eye more than Haaland is how good Sancho is. He puts so much on the plate for Haaland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 FA saying they want Southgate to stay no matter what the result is on Tuesday. Really not sure about that myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds U from sheff Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 12 hours ago, mcmigo said: Foden is a very good player but when you have De Bruyne and Mahrez next to you - both absolutely world class players - the game can't be that hard. Not quite the same as having Declan Rice and a Leeds midfielder in the england team! It's not about a 'Leeds midfielder' or Declan Rice. It's southgate, that's our problem. Time will tell though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ellis Rimmer Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 When does his current contract finish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night King Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Madness. Doesn’t his current deal take him to after the World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 The FA have got their yes man and they are not letting go 3 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: When does his current contract finish? After the 2022 World Cup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: The FA have got their yes man and they are not letting go After the 2022 World Cup So why does he need a new contract now? Bizarre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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